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Post subject: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:29 pm
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Rock N' Roll music is on life support right now in terms of popular demand, I mean new, refreshing music, not 60 year old hags running around on stage belting out now "Guitar Hero" anthems. But do you think it is truly dead? If so state why and be prepared to back it up, if not then state why and explain why as well. Also consider this, what was honestly the last great newer (mind blowing, refreshing) thing you've heard and where do you think rock music will have to go to be put back in full swing?

My opinion: Its not dead, yet

Last Great thing ive heard: Middle Management by Bishop Allen

Where will the Music have to go: Someone, yes a single figure, will have to go David Bowie/Led Zeppelin and bring the sex, drugs, glamour, larger than life, persona back into play OR it will have to go rough, like Neil Young distorted, Bob Dylan lyrics, Johhny Ramone playing, Hendrix solos, to bring attention.

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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:14 pm
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Rock is no more dead or dying than it has ever been, just like all other forms of music. And yes life itself, it's "EVER CHANGING" and will continue to do so. Example: 50's R&R music,changed and went away to be replaced by 60's music that went away and was replaced by 70's/80's&90's. now were in the 21'st century and it's still changing. This new stuff is NOT CRAP its just difirent. You can opt to, like a lot of us older folks. Play what you like :roll: 8) :)
There are a lot of 60/70/80 year old men and women,(HAGS DID YOU SAY?) 0ut there playing a lot of good music. Thanks to there good health and talent. :) Speeking of talent, I wish one of mine were spelling.
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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:25 pm
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Nevin1985 wrote:
Rock is not dead. Popular music would have you believe that rap and pop is king, but the reality is that the music industry is bigger than ever now. You have thousands and thousands of artists to listen to and people have short attention spans now.

Back in the day, you listened to whoever was on the radio because that was your world. Now we have the internet and everything else bringing us more and more content. Gone are the days of massive rock bands selling millions and millions of albums.

We now listen to one track and hit next because we are too busy to listen to the entire album (we downloaded it for free)

Music lost most of its tangible identity... it used to be that you bought music and you could hold it in your hands. It was a real thing. Now it is mostly 1001010101001 on your computer for .99 cents. Vinyl is holding up better than CD sales. The CD is dead.

Rock is not dead, it is just not as prominent in our mainstream media.

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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:34 pm
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it might be at a low point compared to some of the spikes of the past but it is definitely not dead or dying in my opinion. I think there will be a movement when someone hits and shakes the core up. I kinda thought that The White Stripes was going to start something (i am talking like the grunge movement or the likes). i think that someone will come along and rip up the norm and turn rock on its ear and it will be hot as ever. just my opinion.
and i agree 100% that the digital media is makes finding new music so easy. One thing that i kinda don't like about the digital age is there is no more story. I know... this coming from a vinyl head but hear me out. Albums, well good albums, used to tell a story from the opening song to the end. You were on a journey. Now it is pick and choose so most just set their phone or mp3 player on random and go. It is a double edged sword because many albums had a few good songs and then some fluff which makes the pick and choose style of digital much better for the consumer. but it does lack in the complete story style of music. I am speaking in generalities here of course.


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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:45 pm
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Rock N' Roll music is on life support right now in terms of popular demand, I mean new, refreshing music, not 60 year old hags running around on stage belting out now "Guitar Hero" anthems. But do you think it is truly dead? If so state why and be prepared to back it up, if not then state why and explain why as well. Also consider this, what was honestly the last great newer (mind blowing, refreshing) thing you've heard and where do you think rock music will have to go to be put back in full swing?

My opinion: Its not dead, yet

Last Great thing ive heard: Middle Management by Bishop Allen

Where will the Music have to go: Someone, yes a single figure, will have to go David Bowie/Led Zeppelin and bring the sex, drugs, glamour, larger than life, persona back into play OR it will have to go rough, like Neil Young distorted, Bob Dylan lyrics, Johhny Ramone playing, Hendrix solos, to bring attention.

That is very heavy NC. Keep the faith, an artist that you like will come along.

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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:52 pm
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Nevin1985 wrote:
Rock is not dead. Popular music would have you believe that rap and pop is king, but the reality is that the music industry is bigger than ever now. You have thousands and thousands of artists to listen to and people have short attention spans now.

Back in the day, you listened to whoever was on the radio because that was your world. Now we have the internet and everything else bringing us more and more content. Gone are the days of massive rock bands selling millions and millions of albums.

We now listen to one track and hit next because we are too busy to listen to the entire album (we downloaded it for free)

Music lost most of its tangible identity... it used to be that you bought music and you could hold it in your hands. It was a real thing. Now it is mostly 1001010101001 on your computer for .99 cents. Vinyl is holding up better than CD sales. The CD is dead.

Rock is not dead, it is just not as prominent in our mainstream media.

very well said nevin

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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:02 pm
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TV and radio are dead. A study was done recently that put the average network TV viewer at 61. And I don't know anyone who listens to broadcast radio. Everyone uses their aux jack or satellite.

Rock music is stronger than ever. It is independent. You no longer have to go through labels, you no longer have to cater to the radio or rely on producers or engineers. A laptop, three chords, a wicked bassline, and a beat are all you need to cut your CD. $@!&, the Gorillaz used even less than that. Damon and an iPad made an amazing #$@*&!% album.

More music is being made by more people than ever and it has led to some of the most creative awesome $@!& if you dig it. I hate over-produced bullshit rock, so I love it.

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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:04 pm
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I have a classic rock CD titled "Rock and Roll Is Dead...But It Won't Lie Down" and that's just about the size of it it seems.The vacuous,insipid,mass produced pablum that's being passed off as rock these days is an abomination compared to music of the 50s,60s,70s and even some of the 80s.It isn't dead as such but is definitely in a state of suspended animation.
What we need now is another musical Renaissance like we had in the 60s when the British Invasion brought rock and even blues to the fore again.After Elvis enlisted in the army,rock went back into the Doldrums and guys like Fabian,Paul Anka and Bobby Vinton came on the scene with their bland,beatless teeny bopper love songs,then the Beatles gave rock the jump-start it needed.
A rock revival like the Beatles caused is very unlikely but it seems that more and more young people growing up today are becoming bored and disillusioned with the drival that's infesting the airwaves and are listening to the good old stuff.I've heard many parents say how their kids are hauling out their old vinyl and getting really into it.Maybe after a while these kids will grow in number and we'll have a gradual resurgance of good quality unadulterated rock.I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:30 pm
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guitslinger wrote:
I have a classic rock CD titled "Rock and Roll Is Dead...But It Won't Lie Down" and that's just about the size of it it seems.The vacuous,insipid,mass produced pablum that's being passed off as rock these days is an abomination compared to music of the 50s,60s,70s and even some of the 80s.It isn't dead as such but is definitely in a state of suspended animation.

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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:34 pm
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TV and radio are dead. A study was done recently that put the average network TV viewer at 61. And I don't know anyone who listens to broadcast radio. Everyone uses their aux jack or satellite.

Rock music is stronger than ever. It is independent. You no longer have to go through labels, you no longer have to cater to the radio or rely on producers or engineers. A laptop, three chords, a wicked bassline, and a beat are all you need to cut your CD. $@!&, the Gorillaz used even less than that. Damon and an iPad made an amazing #$@*&!% album.

More music is being made by more people than ever and it has led to some of the most creative awesome $@!& if you dig it. I hate over-produced bullshit rock, so I love it.

Excatly man, you just gotta get out of the box and start exploring 8)

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Post subject: Re: Hooked Up To Life Suppot
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:22 am
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My .02: Rock is on life support.
Rock has morphed into classic rock. The system that supported rock is nearly dead. If you want new material from major artists you have to buy it at the one retailer that made a deal like Starbucks, Best Buy etc. If you want new material from new artists you need to seek it out on your own because the record companies are unwilling to take any chances.
I'm not saying there isn't any good new material being recorded, I'm saying the average person will never hear it and few if any new rock stars will emerge.
I'm a huge proponent of radio, buy most of the stations are degrading into focus group formula programing and the DJ's are no more then a warm pulse to maintain the illusion of what radio used to be.
It's great that a lot of younger people are developing an interest in classic rock. But, new rock is no longer relevant.
I went to see Buffalo Springfield last night. At one point Richie Furay said, "This next song I wrote last week." And I thought, seriously, they're going to play a new song. Then he said, "Just kidding, it seems like last week." And there you have it. I'm sure he has new material but he couldn't take the chance.

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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:30 am
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Danny Duke wrote:
Rock is no more dead or dying than it has ever been, just like all other forms of music. And yes life itself, it's "EVER CHANGING" and will continue to do so. Example: 50's R&R music,changed and went away to be replaced by 60's music that went away and was replaced by 70's/80's&90's. now were in the 21'st century and it's still changing. This new stuff is NOT CRAP its just difirent. You can opt to, like a lot of us older folks. Play what you like :roll: 8) :)
There are a lot of 60/70/80 year old men and women,(HAGS DID YOU SAY?) 0ut there playing a lot of good music. Thanks to there good health and talent. :) Speeking of talent, I wish one of mine were spelling.
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im talkin fresh, new stuff, not "livin on a prayer" or "black in black" being played in stadiums, it can be good all it wants, its the old guard, not exactly relevant

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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:34 am
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Nevin1985 wrote:
Rock is not dead. Popular music would have you believe that rap and pop is king, but the reality is that the music industry is bigger than ever now. You have thousands and thousands of artists to listen to and people have short attention spans now.

Back in the day, you listened to whoever was on the radio because that was your world. Now we have the internet and everything else bringing us more and more content. Gone are the days of massive rock bands selling millions and millions of albums.

We now listen to one track and hit next because we are too busy to listen to the entire album (we downloaded it for free)

Music lost most of its tangible identity... it used to be that you bought music and you could hold it in your hands. It was a real thing. Now it is mostly 1001010101001 on your computer for .99 cents. Vinyl is holding up better than CD sales. The CD is dead.

Rock is not dead, it is just not as prominent in our mainstream media.
best argument yet, i belive we are in a new age worse then the late 80s thoug, theres not even good carbon copies around, and forget a plethora of extremely listenable and unique bands

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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:54 pm
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To answer this question with a totally different approach: How can it be? Look at all the guitar players out there and even right here for that matter. I'll even go as far as saying that I'm positive the vast majority of players at large are into some form of Rock as their #1 preference in music.

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.

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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:36 pm
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Martian wrote:
To answer this question with a totally different approach: How can it be? Look at all the guitar players out there and even right here for that matter. I'll even go as far as saying that I'm positive the vast majority of players at large are into some form of Rock as their #1 preference in music.

As always, this is merely IMO where YMMV.
they can perfer it all they want, how many form a band, make real rock, are unique, and get recognition?

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