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Post subject: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:33 am
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how important is true bypass to you on your pedal board?
some high quality pedals like boss arent true bypass.

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http://www.petecornish.co.uk/case_again ... ypass.html

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:41 am
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True bypass is nice, but it's not absolutely necessary to me. I think some of the outrage at non-true bypass pedals is advertising/propaganda/overhype.

I have quite a long signal chain, and not many of my pedals that are true bypass. I'm satisfied with my tone (overall) and most people like the sounds coming out of my amp, so I must be doing something right.

I'd rather have a cool funky tone than a perfectly smooth, sterile one...

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:47 am
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i hear that if you put a cheap clean boost pedal in your chain at the end, it will boost the signal back to where it should be before it goes into the amp.
im wondering how true that is?

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:05 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBn75-WN30

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 6:24 am
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Nevin1985 wrote:


As for the clean boost theory Way Cool... I can't see that working. That is just basically amplifying a signal.



The MXR Boost/Linedriver was designed by Bob Bradshaw originally for his clients, expressly for the purpose of adding back any signal lost in the chain.
its been forever and a day since we talked, but i could probably call and ask him the theory behind his madness on this.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:13 am
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way cool jr wrote:
how important is true bypass to you on your pedal board?
some high quality pedals like boss arent true bypass.

pete says:

http://www.petecornish.co.uk/case_again ... ypass.html

Ha! Pete is The Man - I didn't understand half of that! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:41 am
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Musicians have been using effects without true bypass since the 60's and had great tone. Now all of a sudden we're suppose to believe that our tone sucks if our pedals aren't true bupass? Just more snake oil if you ask me.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:17 am
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Long cable lengths are the biggest tone suckers out there. I don't give a ratsass about true bypass. I cut my musical teeth in the late 60's. True bypass? :lol: Tone sucking? That's what tone controls are for. The effects we used were noisy and hissy but we all lived with it and worked around it. It's not that hard. I still use some of my really old pedals. :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:48 pm
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I have one true bypass pedal that I had made for me by this guy http://www.madebymike.co.uk/index.shtml
I have four others, which are all boss, and they sound perfectly fine being pseudobypass.
I think its more of a gimmick than a necessity.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:54 pm
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I think true bypass was some studio engineer's desire--a perfectly sterile signal that is un-affected by all the other effects.

In the real world (where guitarists live) we know that those nasty little signal changers that are present even when the pedal is turned off makes for some unique-ness in an increasingly homogenous tone world...some of that "tone sucking" makes for a warmer, richer signal.

Somebody called it snake oil...overall, I have to agree.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:54 pm
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Voodoo Blues wrote:
Musicians have been using effects without true bypass since the 60's and had great tone. Now all of a sudden we're suppose to believe that our tone sucks if our pedals aren't true bupass? Just more snake oil if you ask me.

I hardly ever use pedals....guess my tone really sucks. :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:09 pm
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What you get out of the speaker is far more important than how you get it.
As Nevin said (particularly with Fuzz's) sometimes true bypass can be your worst enemy and that a buffer is needed.

I hate that people spew nonsense about this stuff. It's so unimportant it's unreal. Just what is the true signal of the guitar? Is that the guitar into a keyboard amp or a Dumble Overdrive? There is no such thing as 'True signal of the guitar'. It's a crock of sheet. Who decides what the true signal of the guitar is and what qualifies em to do so? How is it affected by the 'true valve sound' or 'the clear sounding cable'. Their all bloody lies designed to relieve you of moolah.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:10 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
I think true bypass was some studio engineer's desire--a perfectly sterile signal that is un-affected by all the other effects.

In the real world (where guitarists live) we know that those nasty little signal changers that are present even when the pedal is turned off makes for some unique-ness in an increasingly homogenous tone world...some of that "tone sucking" makes for a warmer, richer signal.

Somebody called it snake oil...overall, I have to agree.



if you can prove something its hardly snake oil. now believing all the hype is something different.

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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:53 pm
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Post subject: Re: true bypass
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:00 pm
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Long cords especially cheap ones will get you every time. When I was a kid, I used to pick all kinds of radio frequencies. CB radios, am radio, kids with walkie talkies. Use quality cords and decent pedals and you'll be okay. I remember Craig Anderton writing how important true bypass was. I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now. It's pretty funny how it turned into a huge selling point.

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