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Post subject: EQ Pedals--Your favorites?
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:28 pm
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I formerly owned a DOD FX40B 7-band EQ pedal that was great.

I used it to tweeze out the offensive frequencies that cause feedback for my harmonica microphone (I run the mic through my effects) and used the volume slider to hit the front of the preamp on my Vibroverb and dirty things up a bit.

Unfortunately, the pedal bit the dust and I'm not willing to pay $50+ dollars to fix it.

I am interested in the MXR 10-band; it has pre- and post-EQ gain sliders (so I should be able to get that nasty hard-slamming harp tone everybody wants):

http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/m108-10-band-graphic-eq

I don't like the Boss EQ; it instantly adds a processed sound to your mix, and isn't very transparent (I know that sounds like a oxymoron, but an equalizer should change frequencies, not add sounds that are more mechanical/electronic).

What EQ pedals have you used, and what do you recommend?

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Post subject: Re: EQ Pedals--Your favorites?
Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:34 pm
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i have a Boss and havent noticed what your claiming SA.
Boss has made a couple over the yrs. which did you try?
i would choose Boss or the MXR. both top of the line.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:38 pm
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The last Boss EQ I tried was about seven years ago; I don't know if it's changed since then.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:42 pm
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how did it add sound to your tones? i dont get it.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:56 pm
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It slightly sterilized it and made it a bit "electronic" sounding. I thought it was just my ears, but another guy who has similar tastes in pedals commented the same thing when he was looking for an EQ.

The thing is, I loved that DOD, but they don't make that particular one any more and due to their fragile nature (switch/latching capacitor circuit is cruddy) I don't want to buy a used one and end up in the same boat again.

I'm a huge MXR fan, but have only heard sound samples of the 10-band model they have out. I would probably prefer the 6-band (size-wise) but I want a volume slider and the MXR 6-band doesn't have one...

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:08 pm
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One of two I use.

This for amp eq shaping

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This for front end boosting.

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If I were you mate. I'd go Dano' for a cheap easy replacement. Great pedal, 8 years old now and still going strong.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:20 pm
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I have a BBE Sonic Max unit that does a great job with EQ.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:23 pm
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nikininja wrote:
This for front end boosting.

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If I were you mate. I'd go Dano' for a cheap easy replacement. Great pedal, 8 years old now and still going strong.


I've thought about the Dano Fish n' Chips, if nothing else for the price.

How does it sound?

I guess if you've had it for eight years, it's gotta be durable...hmm.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 4:08 pm
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That's something I've never used-am I missing something by not using one?It's just that I was always satisfied with my tone anyway so I figured that an EQ may upset the balance. Are there any other players that don't/haven't used them?

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:35 pm
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guitslinger wrote:
That's something I've never used-am I missing something by not using one?It's just that I was always satisfied with my tone anyway so I figured that an EQ may upset the balance. Are there any other players that don't/haven't used them?



i think you are. i think every board could use a EQ.
you might not use it all the time but its a very handy pedal if you use any kind
of a OD or distortion pedal. i mean we use the EQ on our amps right? well the pedal
allows us to fine tune the whole thing before we send it to the amp.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:56 am
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My thinking on EQ's is that if you front end em into the amp, you don't alter the sound, just get more of your sound.

I don't use effects loops ever. I use the boss EQ to put a bit of high end into my signal at the end of the board. The danelectro is at the start of the board as a signal boost into my other pedals.

SA, it sounds how I set it, it's a eq pedal. Sorry to be a little facetious but I just don't hear what you describe on the boss EQ.
For the pittance it costs, it's worth having even if you get another EQ pedal at a later date.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:30 am
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When you take any signal and feed it to a normal signal chain--a preamp, EQ, Amp, etc.--and out through a speaker, it's going to lose quality. It's one of the great negatives of amplified music : any signal fed to a speaker will lose quality due to problems that all speakers have with phase and accurate amplitude reproduction.

This causes fundamentals and harmonics to be out of order or even reversed, making the sound muddy. Certain frequencies may be overemphasized because of phase problems making the sound inaccurate and just plain bad.

This BBE unit's circuitry puts the clarity back in your signal by correcting those problems. The circuitry gives the speaker a signal that it likes, one that it can re-produce more efficiently and with clarity and loudness. It makes the waveform that the speaker reproduces closer to the natural, unamplified musical signal.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:38 am
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The Boss pedal I was dissatisfied with was the GE-7, not the EQ-20 such as you have. I've actually never tried the EQ-20 before (no particular reason, I just haven't)...the programming feature sounds cool, because I could save one setting for guitar and one for harp.

I need to try the GE-7 again, maybe my ears were just fried that day or something.

The other thing that's weird is I'm going to have to try whatever pedal I end up buying with both a guitar and my harp microphone. The harp mics are weird little devices; things that sound great for guitar sometimes sound like poo for a harp mic--and vice versa.

I'm mainly using an old 1940's Astatic A200 public address/radio dispatch microphone for harp (although I have others, such as a Shure Green Bullet and an antique Astatic "Elvis"-style mic).

So, I have to check out the Fish n' Chips, the EQ-20, re-check the GE-7, the MXR 10-band...does anyone have any other suggestions?

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Post subject: Re: EQ Pedals--Your favorites?
Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:53 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
The circuitry gives the speaker a signal that it likes, one that it can re-produce more efficiently and with clarity and loudness. It makes the waveform that the speaker reproduces closer to the natural, unamplified musical signal.


Yeah, but I'm playing harmonica--we want those "bad" signals and frequencies!! :lol:

Many factors that we use to get a "good" guitar sound go out the window when playing harp. So many people don't like a master volume on their guitar amps, but they sound great for harp (especially if you dime the slave volume and tweak the master)...it's just a different animal.

I previously used my DOD eq to slightly overdrive the signal (like a slave volume control) and to tweeze out the frequencies that caused feedback (common problem, especially on small stages), and it worked well for that.

I'll try the BBE, but it sounds too hi-fi for such a lo-fi application.

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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:58 pm
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i use the GE7 and dont experience what you did.
a lot of guys use a clean boost at the end of their pedal board to
boost anything that might be lost over the board sending peak signals to the amp.

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