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Post subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden has been killed!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:49 am
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I'll just say that I'm delighted to hear the US Special forces eventually caught up with this guy and delivered the message many people around the world wanted to send.
He was high on the list but there are quite a few more yet. However this must have knocked them on their backs and the timing was good too, with the current trend across north africa and middle east, of protest without the need to hide behind masks and shady corners and in Bin Laden's case, apparently, behind his wife too.
So the world moves on and we will eventually get to a good place.
Thanks to all involved in the struggle, both now and into the future.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:50 am
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+1 Well said Doc. Or just spend some time with some of the victims family and friends of 911 like I have and see how they feel.


Or the families of almost 10000 afghan civilians that have died there since 2007...


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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:07 am
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+1 Well said Doc. Or just spend some time with some of the victims family and friends of 911 like I have and see how they feel.

........One of the maintenance people in my office building served in Afganistan. So did his family. One returned to the US wounded. There's a framed battle flag with a certificate of authenticity and photograph hanging on the wall in the lobby courtesy of him. Everytime I look out of the south-viewing windows on our floor, I'm reminded of what we saw there 10 years ago. I still see the smoke, flames, debris and, yes, the bodies falling. I recall the story my cousin's wife told of standing in the lobby of the WTS, waiting on the elevator, only to be greeted by a furnace of flaming jet fuel when the doors opened. I thanked John this morning for his, and the service of his sons. We should never fail to constantly remind the world of the cost, no matter how great, we are willing to pay for our freedom, and the terrible cost they will pay for any attempt to wrest it from us.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:08 am
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Releasing Bin Laden death photo / video. Your thoughts?


A outright bloody stupid action that will do nothing except further outrage extremists.

If you honestly think you are safe from reprisal you've already forgotten 9/11. We were all going around thinking everything was hunkydory that day until the calamity in the sky happened.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:09 am
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why not? they released so-damn insane's pics didnt they?

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:27 am
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Releasing Bin Laden death photo / video. Your thoughts?

The days of John Dillinger and Bonnie and Clyde are long past. If one lives long enough often delicate matters such as that come to light.....light years after it doesn't matter any more. [Like the declassified photos of the first atomic bombs]Perhaps your grandchildren, or great-grandchildren will be the beneficiary of some historical review. For the present, it remains a 'no nevermind', and on a personal note, of no real interest.

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Post subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden has been killed!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:28 am
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why not? they released so-damn insane's pics didnt they?


A civilian video got released, no government had any part in its recording or release.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:08 pm
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way cool jr wrote:
why not? they released so-damn insane's pics didnt they?


A civilian video got released, no government had any part in its recording or release.


And there was a load of backlash about it. Thats not the game Obama is playing here.
I really think they've known his location for years, I really do. Nasa has satellites that can read the headline on my newspaper. Google maps seems to be everywhere. Yet this old, sick bloke evaded all that for ten years? It don't ring right to me. I think Obama called the hit to get himself some campaign ammo for next year. The proof is in the pudding, what have we got now? Is the terrorist threat ended? No. Is Al Qaeda ended? No. Is it a fair price for the lives lost and ruined? No. Did everyone feel good for a while and Obama can take the credit after his other less successful ventures? Yes.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:19 pm
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63supro wrote:
+1 Well said Doc. Or just spend some time with some of the victims family and friends of 911 like I have and see how they feel.


Or the families of almost 10000 afghan civilians that have died there since 2007...


:shock: There would have been NO "afgan civilians that have died" if there had not been the 9-11-01 massacre first. :shock:
THEY ATTACKED US!!!! Without ANY provacation! :evil:
Chalk up one more "good" muslim :wink: Thanks SEALS! Well done!

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:48 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
why not? they released so-damn insane's pics didnt they?


A civilian video got released, no government had any part in its recording or release.


And there was a load of backlash about it. Thats not the game Obama is playing here.
I really think they've known his location for years, I really do. Nasa has satellites that can read the headline on my newspaper. Google maps seems to be everywhere. Yet this old, sick bloke evaded all that for ten years? It don't ring right to me. I think Obama called the hit to get himself some campaign ammo for next year. The proof is in the pudding, what have we got now? Is the terrorist threat ended? No. Is Al Qaeda ended? No. Is it a fair price for the lives lost and ruined? No. Did everyone feel good for a while and Obama can take the credit after his other less successful ventures? Yes.


There are even people claiming he's been dead for some time now, and that this is all a hoax. The reasoning being that the CIA was regularly intercepting conversations and messages from him in 2001, and they suddenly stopped shortly after 9/11. Also, in the last video he recorded, sometime in late November-early December 2001, he was supposedly in the final stages of kidney failure.


I don't necessarily believe that theory, but I am keeping an open mind about it. If he was still alive, they've definitely had his location for some time now.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:20 pm
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oldfender wrote:
Snowjoe wrote:
63supro wrote:
+1 Well said Doc. Or just spend some time with some of the victims family and friends of 911 like I have and see how they feel.


Or the families of almost 10000 afghan civilians that have died there since 2007...


:shock: There would have been NO "afgan civilians that have died" if there had not been the 9-11-01 massacre first. :shock:
THEY ATTACKED US!!!! Without ANY provacation! :evil:
Chalk up one more "good" muslim :wink: Thanks SEALS! Well done!

NEVER forget Pearl Harbor. NEVER forget 9-11-01 the World Trade Centers.



The Afganis did not attack the WTC. Al Quaida is primarily an Arab organization, and the Afghanis are not Arabs.
Afganistan asked NATO for help with the Taliban and thats why they are there.


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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:34 pm
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Snowjoe wrote:
[Or the families of almost 10000 afghan civilians that have died there since 2007...


:shock: There would have been NO "afgan civilians that have died" if there had not been the 9-11-01 massacre first. :shock:
THEY ATTACKED US!!!! Without ANY provacation! :evil:
Chalk up one more "good" muslim :wink: Thanks SEALS! Well done!

NEVER forget Pearl Harbor. NEVER forget 9-11-01 the World Trade Centers.



The Afganis did not attack the WTC. Al Quaida is primarily an Arab organization, and the Afghanis are not Arabs.
Afganistan asked NATO for help with the Taliban and thats why they are there.


Ok ... :roll: (since you want to be "picky")
al-Qaida members attacked the WTC. :roll:
al-Qaida members are/were housed and protected in Afgan, by Afgans. :roll:
The Main Man, Leader of al-Qaida (Bin Laden) was housed and protected in Afgan. :roll:
No sympathy here for the devil, or devils, where-ever they may be, whatever country they may choose to hide in, nor for any people that hide them (gives them aid and comfort). No sympathy at all.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:18 am
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nikininja wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
why not? they released so-damn insane's pics didnt they?


A civilian video got released, no government had any part in its recording or release.


And there was a load of backlash about it. Thats not the game Obama is playing here.
I really think they've known his location for years, I really do. Nasa has satellites that can read the headline on my newspaper. Google maps seems to be everywhere. Yet this old, sick bloke evaded all that for ten years? It don't ring right to me. I think Obama called the hit to get himself some campaign ammo for next year. The proof is in the pudding, what have we got now? Is the terrorist threat ended? No. Is Al Qaeda ended? No. Is it a fair price for the lives lost and ruined? No. Did everyone feel good for a while and Obama can take the credit after his other less successful ventures? Yes.


There are even people claiming he's been dead for some time now, and that this is all a hoax. The reasoning being that the CIA was regularly intercepting conversations and messages from him in 2001, and they suddenly stopped shortly after 9/11. Also, in the last video he recorded, sometime in late November-early December 2001, he was supposedly in the final stages of kidney failure.


I don't necessarily believe that theory, but I am keeping an open mind about it. If he was still alive, they've definitely had his location for some time now.[/quote]

I believe it. Straight up I do. French newspaper Le Figaro reported that he was treated for kidney infection in 4-14th July 2001 by an american hospital in Dubai, and whilst undergoing treatment was visited by a CIA official. However, as he was then at the very high ranks of the wanted list, he was never detained. His health was a major concern and doctors were very concerned afterwards that kidney infection or failure would end his life. He was put on dialisis and sent back to Kandahar. He has been in contact with CIA since 1979, and this ended in late 2001.. for obvious reasons.

Spy agencies can read a car license plate from a satelitte, then why is it they cannot track a person for 10 years? I believe with no hesitation that a extremeist terrorist organisation was behind the attacks, but Al Qaeda's existence as far as I'm concerned has yet to be proved with hard factual evidence. All the talk of frozen assets and no hard evidence of what they actually were.

I feel sympathy for anyone that was lost and all families too, and I dont want to step on anyones tail. But I just dont celebrate anyone's death, and nor do I buy in to the idea with todays technology, they cannot track a man that had dialisis & serious kidney health problems in 2001 with Satellittes, a fully equiped army, airforce and naval force- with the help of allies involved, when less than 2 hours drive north from me, is a base managed on U.S soil, run by the NSA intercepting all kinds of communication transmissions from all over the world. I think he is dead, but he has been for a long time now. I also don't buy into the idea of the way the third building collapsed in manhattan 2001. But, my opinion, which of course is subjective to everyone elses.

If anyone wants to question my opinion, let's take it offline.

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send me PM on your opinion. im interested.

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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:57 am
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Blertles, I think your on the right track. I think too many people like to believe anything the government tells us until it's too painful to keep believing the lies. Then they take action to try and find out whats really going on. http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/59.html


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