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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:53 am
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"Enlightenment"......that which a Gen-X pothead achieves when he ultimately discovers that there is more to life than driving a used-and-abused Ford Escort, working two or three McJobs simultaneously, and living in his momma's basement -- all because of his slavish devotion to the 420 lifestyle.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:22 am
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Nothing personal but who are you to tell me what choices i make are wrong, its just pot, you cant get addicted


Obviously someone with a good deal more wisdom than you, thats who he appears to be to me.

I'm sorry but you're really coming across as a attention seeking whiney little girl. When your not posting stupid questions about gear that when you get advice, refuse to heed it. You're here on this disaster of a thread, refusing to heed advice from people who's experiences probably outweigh not only yours, but your parents too.

To say that THC is not addictive is downright naive. It's exactly as addictive and habit forming as either alcohol or nicotine. Equally as damaging as cigarettes, and it makes you slow minded and bloody stupid.
It's a antisocial drug that inhibits social discourse and promotes paranoia, further destroying it's users ability to interact with society to any meaning level.

Now I'm not the kind of person to tell you not to do something I've done. So here's my advice. Go buy thirty trips, and take a couple. LSD is one drug that isn't addictive or physically damaging. Be warned, you're just weak minded enough to never fully recover from your first venture though.

At least you'll probably stop posting BS on the Fender site.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:22 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
"Enlightenment"......that which a Gen-X pothead achieves when he ultimately discovers that there is more to life than driving a used-and-abused Ford Escort, working two or three McJobs simultaneously, and living in his momma's basement -- all because of his slavish devotion to the 420 lifestyle.

Good luck with that!

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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:24 am
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nikininja wrote:
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Nothing personal but who are you to tell me what choices i make are wrong, its just pot, you cant get addicted


Obviously someone with a good deal more wisdom than you, thats who he appears to be to me.

I'm sorry but you're really coming across as a attention seeking whiney little girl. When your not posting stupid questions about gear that when you get advice, refuse to heed it. You're here on this disaster of a thread, refusing to heed advice from people who's experiences probably outweigh not only yours, but your parents too.

To say that THC is not addictive is downright naive. It's exactly as addictive and habit forming as either alcohol or nicotine. Equally as damaging as cigarettes, and it makes you slow minded and bloody stupid.
It's a antisocial drug that inhibits social discourse and promotes paranoia, further destroying it's users ability to interact with society to any meaning level.

Now I'm not the kind of person to tell you not to do something I've done. So here's my advice. Go buy thirty trips, and take a couple. LSD is one drug that isn't addictive or physically damaging. Be warned, you're just weak minded enough to never fully recover from your first venture though.

At least you'll probably stop posting BS on the Fender site.
And Im hostile? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL :lol: :lol: :lol: "When a man angers you, he conquers you" BTW To say Marijuana is equally as damaging as cigarettes is truely ignorant, you know how many die of smoking cigs a year? 400,000. Yknow how many die of cannabis use a year? 0. Thank you for your opinion about me seeking advice on what instrument and accessories to buy, I really needed that seeing as how this is a FENDER GEAR WEBSITE.

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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:44 am
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Really, how many people per yer are non cigarette/cigar/pipe users, that partake in cannabis that get smoking related diseases? Back the claim up, show some evidence. The fact that smoking a spliff causes you to ingest four times the tar of a cigarette has been known to the medical world for at least three decades to my knowledge. To say it's non addictive is utterly absurd. How many people do you know that often claim they can't operate without a joint in em. Sounds exactly the same as alcoholism to me. Infact if you decide to get educated about it, you'll soon see that the way THC acts on the brain is near identical to the way nicotine acts on the brain. A potentialy lethal amount of poison in one intake to one particuar set of receptors that the brain has to forcably disperse to other receptors. Giving the 'ahhhh' sensation of a cigarette and causing you to get stoned with a spliff.


Sorry you're ill-informed with the typical drug users rhetoric that you seem to think most of us haven't heard or spouted before now.
You haven't angered me, I don't think you're hostile, I simply think you to be a idiot. I refuse to give you gear advice for the same reason.
So go on, do drugs, but if you're going to throw your life away. Atleast do good drugs. Don't turn yourself into some slow minded, dullwitted waste of oxygen just for a bit of draw.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:35 pm
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nikininja wrote:
Really, how many people per yer are non cigarette/cigar/pipe users, that partake in cannabis that get smoking related diseases? Back the claim up, show some evidence. The fact that smoking a spliff causes you to ingest four times the tar of a cigarette has been known to the medical world for at least three decades to my knowledge. To say it's non addictive is utterly absurd. How many people do you know that often claim they can't operate without a joint in em. Sounds exactly the same as alcoholism to me. Infact if you decide to get educated about it, you'll soon see that the way THC acts on the brain is near identical to the way nicotine acts on the brain. A potentialy lethal amount of poison in one intake to one particuar set of receptors that the brain has to forcably disperse to other receptors. Giving the 'ahhhh' sensation of a cigarette and causing you to get stoned with a spliff.


Sorry you're ill-informed with the typical drug users rhetoric that you seem to think most of us haven't heard or spouted before now.
You haven't angered me, I don't think you're hostile, I simply think you to be a idiot. I refuse to give you gear advice for the same reason.
So go on, do drugs, but if you're going to throw your life away. Atleast do good drugs. Don't turn yourself into some slow minded, dullwitted waste of oxygen just for a bit of draw.
I have backed my claim up, its a well known fact there have beeen zero deaths due to the effects of cannabis. Alcohol equals destruction, marijuana equals mellow and philosophy, Bob Marley uses that example alot, you think im an idiot and i think your an idiot looking for a fight, i care less that you wont persue my other thread, who are you anyways, im sick of this, this is the time where everyone should be open in attacking me and furthering the inflation of this off subject matter for i am done, Marijuana isnt a drug, it is a herb, a plant given to us by God.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:03 pm
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What a utterly weak arguament. To completely dispel that weak minded philosophy heres some other plant derivatives for you:-

Cocaine
Heroin

Come on brains where did you think they came from?

If rastafarian mentality is so great, why is Jamaica such a poor country?
Stop being a pratt and look at the idiots you're being influenced by.

Oh and I refuse to accept 'Everybody knows' as evidence. The reason you can't find cannabis users that don't smoke and don't suffer smoking related malaises is because the vast majority of them ingest nicotine with their cannabis.
Another reason why it is so habit forming.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:26 pm
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Thought I'd share this article on the possible long term heath consequences of huffing "herb". http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 104017.htm ......just sayin'

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:41 pm
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Negative Creep, you really are unnecessarily hostile. I mean honest to God, what the hell was the point of that religion comment? :? Furthermore, you seem hellbent on making sure everyone knows you smoke weed, which is just f***ing annoying and gives EVERY smoker a bad name/image. I myself have smoked weed a few times, I don't go about advertising it to the damn world.


ps Try making an actual argument instead of "UR WRONG *insert unfunny, non-offensive name here*". People will actually see you as intelligent instead of just a snotty brat teen.


Coming from a 14 year old, by the way.

a 14 yr old who smokes pot really doesnt make any of us look good, apparently you didnt read any other comment but minesssss, im not hostile, im just defending my beliefs, .... damn we sure as hell got off topic, combination of old sellouts takin my drug comment out of wack and me perusing it, the reason i, just $@!& it were off topic and im arguing to a 14 yr old pothead, yknow your brain hasent even developed enough yet for you to be really messin with drugs to be honest,


I'm almost certain I've seen you post that you are 13-14.... also, I love how they are somehow sellouts for having an IQ above 0 (which, coincidentally, is approximately 5 points higher than your own it would seem). Do you even know what THAT term means? No? Well, it implies one has sold their "soul", or completely changed/done something they never would have before, for the sake of making money.

"Old sellouts".... oh Negative Creep, u so punx! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:42 pm
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Yes, I'm old, over 50.

However, in my life I've seen a lot of lives destroyed by drug and alcohol abuse. Divorces, children abused, children and parents not speaking, beaten wives, 2 suicides, and inability to hold a job.

By the grace of God, I turned off that path but it's where I was going.

Yes, it sounds like a broken record, but pot and a few beers is where it all started. The dragon's appetite cannot be satiated. No matter how much you give him, he keeps wanting more to keep you numb.

I think there are political and social events happening now that could bring back some of the anti-war / anti-government movements of the 60's and early 70's.

We have an unpopular overseas war going on with no end in sight.
We have a government that is largely distrusted by the people.
We have a government that has overstepped its bounds into the personal life of the people
We have rising unemployment and even faster rising under employment
We have significant parts of the populace that feels disenfranchised.

That's an environment ripe for one little spark to set off the entire bomb.

It is time for a change and things need to change. Music through history has been at the forefront of that change. I'm not hearing a lot of new music that is signaling anything except extreme narcissism of overly dramatic depression. I'm not hearing a lot of revolution in today's music but should the environment turn revolutionary, then the music will follow.

As for the drug thing, been there, done that, no desire to get back. Trust me on this one, it may seem cool now while you're in your teens and 20's after a while, it gets real old real fast, or you get real dead real fast.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:27 pm
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Marijuana isnt a drug, it is a herb, a plant given to us by God.


Right......

Like opium poppies.

And coca leaves.

And peyote buttons.

And those "heroes" that you've cited -- how many of them are prematurely dead due to the direct or indirect psychotic effects of these self-prescribed "pharmaceuticals"?

Have yourself a ball, kid.

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:33 pm
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Floyd, do you think he ever listened to Minor Threat or them straightedge bands?

Jeff, there but for the grace of God go all of us. Some pass far too near for comfort.

Whoever claimed that any form of substance abuse doesn't lead to harder substance chasing is a downright liar and a outright enemy of your life force. Just drop into any AA meeting and see what them people will use to get off.

What this kid can't grasp is that some of us lived through the sixties, did all the crap. Woke up and decided it aint all that. Personally it was the eighties with me. I went to probably the first acid house party in the UK. I used to go out on Wednesday and not come home till Monday. I can tell you all, it started at a Roy Harper gig when I was thirteen.
Now a lot of my peers were there too. They all had greater self control and presence of mind than I.
You can do that stuff, but you gotta be in control of yourself and not seeking where you belong, like this kid is doing. Cos what you put yourself to belonging will own you. Whether it be music, money, sex or drugs. Some are more insidious than others, all have their tentacles that grasp relentlessly

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Floyd, do you think he ever listened to Minor Threat or them straightedge bands?

Jeff, there but for the grace of God go all of us. Some pass far too near for comfort.

Whoever claimed that any form of substance abuse doesn't lead to harder substance chasing is a downright liar and a outright enemy of your life force. Just drop into any AA meeting and see what them people will use to get off.

What this kid can't grasp is that some of us lived through the sixties, did all the crap. Woke up and decided it aint all that. Personally it was the eighties with me. I went to probably the first acid house party in the UK. I used to go out on Wednesday and not come home till Monday. I can tell you all, it started at a Roy Harper gig when I was thirteen.
Now a lot of my peers were there too. They all had greater self control and presence of mind than I.
You can do that stuff, but you gotta be in control of yourself and not seeking where you belong, like this kid is doing. Cos what you put yourself to belonging will own you. Whether it be music, money, sex or drugs. Some are more insidious than others, all have their tentacles that grasp relentlessly


No he probably hasn't, and quite frankly, with each of his posts he's seeming more and more like the poser "punks" that consider anyone disagreeing with them a "sellout" and feel like everyone gives a damn about their musical taste and whether or not they do any drugs. I'll also bet good money he considers most people inferior to him based on their musical tastes (liking to many or any "mainstream" acts). "TEH PUNX" like that annoy me. Greatly.

And +1 on the self control. Like I said I've smoked before, but I have control over it and don't make a habit of it. Haven't even touched the stuff for a little over 2 months.

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nikininja wrote:
What a utterly weak arguament. To completely dispel that weak minded philosophy heres some other plant derivatives for you:-

Cocaine
Heroin

Come on brains where did you think they came from?

If rastafarian mentality is so great, why is Jamaica such a poor country?
Stop being a pratt and look at the idiots you're being influenced by.

Oh and I refuse to accept 'Everybody knows' as evidence. The reason you can't find cannabis users that don't smoke and don't suffer smoking related malaises is because the vast majority of them ingest nicotine with their cannabis.
Another reason why it is so habit forming.
here's your evidence, officially: http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view ... eID=000174

nice spelling pratt. not all Jamaicans are Rastafarian, you successfully stereotyped a whole nation, congrats. Well, I do know Cocaine and Heroin come from plants, but theyre synthesized and transformed by man into black tar and white powder, Marijuana is cut and dried, sometimes potenized thats it. Also I have never heard of a Nicotine+Cannabis combo ever, wherever you got that from is somewhere around your anus area. I also do in fact listen to Minor Threat, but I do not believe their whole anti-drug crap. They're punk though so they can talk about whatever and at a time when everyone was shooting up, the most punk thing to do was not do drugs. You werent alive in the sixties, no way unless your beyond immaturity, and if you did live in the eighties yknow first hand drugs were way worse and harder in that era. Im done.

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Please, do be.

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