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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:43 am
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Christianity was my drug of choice, But I O.D. on it, then became a Mail order preacher in a traveling tent revival show. The IRS caught up with me and I ended up doing 5 years in the federal joint on tax fraud charges. I stay away from my drug of choice now (my parole officer took away my pastor credentials) and I'm drug free. Drugs can ruin your life it's true, and Religion is the Opiate of the Masses. 8)
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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:02 am
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I still love to listen to Psychedelic music and bands like The Amboy Dukes(Ted Nugent's first band)Moby Grape,The Fugs who were an outragiously funny politically outspoken group,Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band,Strawberry Alarm Clock etc.Although I don't drink or do mind altering drugs anymore I do have the occassional spliff as with my chronic pain condition I find that that often works better than prescribed opiates such as morphine.I used to take acid years ago and it never did any harm to me but then again I know a few people who burned out on it.Like any drug it can affect different people in many different ways and in my case it really did have a positive influence on my creativity but I haven't touched it in over 25 years.I can see how people like the Beatles,Hendrix et al used LSD to get their creative juices flowing as in a lot of people it does when taken in moderation and these guys were under constant pressure from their record companies to produce more and better music.I am by no means advocating the use of mind altering drugs,I got away unscathed by them but a lot of people paid dearly by losing their minds.

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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:47 pm
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Statistics estimate 106,000 Americans a year die from prescription medication pushed legally from the "trusted" medical doctors, who get kickbacks from pharmaceutical drug companies. The actual number could be 200,000 due to the vagueness of reporting the causes of death. I think that's more than a years worth of heroin overdoses. If you all want to talk about a drug problem, take the blinders off this is the biggest one we have. and it's legal. http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html Here is another link to compare, and think of how the media only focuses on the profitable side of things while ignoring the REAL problems http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30 :shock:


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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:04 pm
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Negative Creep, I wish you could see that labeling music is a gimmick used to sell records, and far too many people fall for it. So is a revival, look at the Disco thing in the early 90's it opened up another market albeit it was one of people who need to be told what is good at the time. I think you make your own decisions about your tastes in music, but look at the labels for what they are. What would a record company label Frank Zappa's music?? See. Music is music. it is what it is and that's that. I like what I like and I don't care what kind of "official' musical barrier it may cross. it's all irrelevant when I'm playing the music. Peace Bro. 8)


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Tell you what, the Jam Scene in the 90's was really bitchen, I miss that "free-form, feel yourself around the tonal center and follow each other for dynamics" type thing. I'm not going to lie, there was some major partying going on, but the music was about the music. It wasn't "take some L and see where we go", it was "Lets start this 'Bluegrassy Thing' and see where we go with it.

"Train wrecks" are an unfortunate part of the experience, but when things come together, and you're all playing a song that nobody wrote....it's pretty fricken cool.

If you rely on drugs to give you that experience, (assuming you survive) you will inevitably have to give up the music with the drugs. That goes for alcohol, speed, Junk, Ludes, Phycs, or Cigarettes. If you couple your playing to your party, it will make it hard to get sober, and even harder to play sober.

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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:57 am
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Negative Creep, I wish you could see that labeling music is a gimmick used to sell records, and far too many people fall for it. So is a revival, look at the Disco thing in the early 90's it opened up another market albeit it was one of people who need to be told what is good at the time. I think you make your own decisions about your tastes in music, but look at the labels for what they are. What would a record company label Frank Zappa's music?? See. Music is music. it is what it is and that's that. I like what I like and I don't care what kind of "official' musical barrier it may cross. it's all irrelevant when I'm playing the music. Peace Bro. 8)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hippe Bull Crap :wink:

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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:00 pm
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Negative Creep wrote:
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Negative Creep, I wish you could see that labeling music is a gimmick used to sell records, and far too many people fall for it. So is a revival, look at the Disco thing in the early 90's it opened up another market albeit it was one of people who need to be told what is good at the time. I think you make your own decisions about your tastes in music, but look at the labels for what they are. What would a record company label Frank Zappa's music?? See. Music is music. it is what it is and that's that. I like what I like and I don't care what kind of "official' musical barrier it may cross. it's all irrelevant when I'm playing the music. Peace Bro. 8)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hippe Bull Crap :wink:


Spoken with all the wisdom and experience that only a teenager can have. :roll:

If you think you and your classmates are the first to try weed, 'shrooms, etc., you're dumber than you sound. I graduated in '88 and all that crap had been around before I started kindergarten.

You have a chip on your shoulder about the drugs. I don't know why, but just as you should listen to some "old fart" that could teach you more about guitar, you should listen to those same "old farts" who have had the experience (whether first-hand or vicariously) of what drug use and abuse can do to a person.

If you will notice, nobody has propogated the old "Reefer Madness" myth here. There are millions of people who have smoked weed, dropped acid, drank beer and ate mushrooms and made it through, none the worse for wear. But there are also people who have done it and eventually become horribly addicted (and what a glorious lifestyle that is! :roll: ) or fried their brain as a result. Nobody knows which one the beginner drug user will become, but scoffing at the possibility is arrogant and stupid...and gambling at any table where the odds are stacked against you isn't brave, it's stupid.

Just ask the guy in the little video in your signature line...oh, that's right, you can't--BECAUSE HE'S DEAD!

You also scoff at the truth Marvin65 espoused about music labels...well, we're glad you're here to save us from all the "Hippe Bull Crap", as you called it (and misspelled "Hippie" simultaneously--wow, you're talented!)...if you're so well-educated and brilliant in relation to "labels", why did you think that MC5 and the Stooges were the genesis of Garage Rock? Those guys were, at best second generation garage bands. You missed by several years, and forgot the foundation of everything that garage rock was supposed to espouse. You want early garage rock, try the 13th Floor Elevators, ? & The Mysterions, the Troggs, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Mouse and the Traps, and a million other unknowns.

If I sound ticked, it's because of your arrogant assumption that "everybody who disagrees with me is wrong, and I'm smarter than that...."

When you've made it a little further down the road, you're going to learn to see things from other points of view and realize that gray hair and wrinkles are mile markers and battle scars, marking where we've been and what we've learned.

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Post subject: Re: Psychadelic Revival?????????
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:23 pm
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Well put Screamin' Armadillo,it's amusing how some people profess to know so much yet show that they know very little when asked to verify their verbal flatulence.

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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:08 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
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Marvin65 wrote:
Negative Creep, I wish you could see that labeling music is a gimmick used to sell records, and far too many people fall for it. So is a revival, look at the Disco thing in the early 90's it opened up another market albeit it was one of people who need to be told what is good at the time. I think you make your own decisions about your tastes in music, but look at the labels for what they are. What would a record company label Frank Zappa's music?? See. Music is music. it is what it is and that's that. I like what I like and I don't care what kind of "official' musical barrier it may cross. it's all irrelevant when I'm playing the music. Peace Bro. 8)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Hippe Bull Crap :wink:


Spoken with all the wisdom and experience that only a teenager can have. :roll:

If you think you and your classmates are the first to try weed, 'shrooms, etc., you're dumber than you sound. I graduated in '88 and all that crap had been around before I started kindergarten.

You have a chip on your shoulder about the drugs. I don't know why, but just as you should listen to some "old fart" that could teach you more about guitar, you should listen to those same "old farts" who have had the experience (whether first-hand or vicariously) of what drug use and abuse can do to a person.

If you will notice, nobody has propogated the old "Reefer Madness" myth here. There are millions of people who have smoked weed, dropped acid, drank beer and ate mushrooms and made it through, none the worse for wear. But there are also people who have done it and eventually become horribly addicted (and what a glorious lifestyle that is! :roll: ) or fried their brain as a result. Nobody knows which one the beginner drug user will become, but scoffing at the possibility is arrogant and stupid...and gambling at any table where the odds are stacked against you isn't brave, it's stupid.

Just ask the guy in the little video in your signature line...oh, that's right, you can't--BECAUSE HE'S DEAD!

You also scoff at the truth Marvin65 espoused about music labels...well, we're glad you're here to save us from all the "Hippe Bull Crap", as you called it (and misspelled "Hippie" simultaneously--wow, you're talented!)...if you're so well-educated and brilliant in relation to "labels", why did you think that MC5 and the Stooges were the genesis of Garage Rock? Those guys were, at best second generation garage bands. You missed by several years, and forgot the foundation of everything that garage rock was supposed to espouse. You want early garage rock, try the 13th Floor Elevators, ? & The Mysterions, the Troggs, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Mouse and the Traps, and a million other unknowns.

If I sound ticked, it's because of your arrogant assumption that "everybody who disagrees with me is wrong, and I'm smarter than that...."

When you've made it a little further down the road, you're going to learn to see things from other points of view and realize that gray hair and wrinkles are mile markers and battle scars, marking where we've been and what we've learned.
mhhmm spoken like a true neo-McCarthyistic drug campaign supervisor whos obviously taking this too serious, big difference between reefer and heroin(wow... your talented)

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All of this from the mere mention of a neo-psychedelic music revival?!?!?

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mhhmm spoken like a true neo-McCarthyistic drug campaign supervisor whos obviously taking this too serious, big difference between reefer and heroin


You misspelled “who’s”.

You’re right, Creep, there is a big difference between reefer and heroin. There’s also a big difference between beer and Everclear. There’s a big difference between bananas and kumquats, too, but that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I don’t care if you smoke reefer. But it’s interesting that time and again you have celebrated the connection between some great music such as psychedelic (which you misspelled in your original post), garage rock, punk and grunge, to the drug use and abuse that many of those artists were involved in. We’re just trying to tell you that you don’t have to do one (use drugs) to do the other (play music), and that there are dangers in the various types of drug use.

You also have not really made an argument to support your opinion or viewpoint. You just automatically string together a few derogatory names in order to try to discount my statements (in the philosophy world, that’s call a “Straw Man” fallacy). Your statement also has an incorrect analogy. McCarthy wasn’t involved in any type of anti-drug campaign. He was just dragging a red herring (Communism) across the political landscape in order to gain some importance and a greater position in the Senate. He failed. But you probably didn’t know that due to your inexperience, lack of information and lack of historical reference…kinda like how you didn’t know about the early Garage Rock bands.

Since I am an apolitical person, I don’t care about anyone’s political persuasion, so your analogy fails on another level, as well.

Also, as I noted above, I don’t care if you choose to get baked every day. The only anti-drug campaign I’m involved in is making sure my daughter doesn’t get involved in that lifestyle. So, toke up, dude!

It seems the problem stems from everyone not saying, “Oh, Negative Creep, you’re so right, you’re so wonderful, and will you share a bowl with us while you tell us more?” Many/most of us here have more knowledge about the musical landscape as well as the drug scene that you ever will, especially if you continually discount any opinion that doesn’t agree with yours.

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(wow... your talented)


You also misspelled “you’re”.

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