Actually, in Texas (Austin, especially) he was already a legend before Stevie dropped out of school and headed south. For many years, people taunted Stevie (unfairly) to, "Play like your brother!"
Also, he was behind the establishment of Austin as a "blues scene" as much as anybody, and definitely not because of his little brother. He opened doors for Stevie that wouldn't have been opened otherwise; too many people despised Stevie's Hendrix excursions initially, until they saw "where he was coming from..."


Again, maybe outside of Texas or outside of the greater blues scene, he was less known, but...I have a special Guitar Player (or Guitar World, my feeble mind strains to remember) magazine about the Texas Blues scene in the 1980s (it was published in ~1986). It featured Billy Gibbons, Stevie Ray, Eric Johnson and Jimmie Vaughan. All three of the other guitarists mentioned him by name as influence and/or a driving force in Texas Blues. That's some pretty high company to keep.



So did Exile on Main Street, the Ramones first album, Black Sabbath's Paranoid...


The only thing he did that might have "profited" from his death was the Tribute to SRV performance, and I don't think he was doing that for that purpose. But to say he was profiting from that, you would have to call out Clapton, Raitt, BB, Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, Dr. John, Tommy Shannon, Chris Layton...
Also, rarely does he bring up his brother in interviews, songs or concert (outside of playing "Six Strings Down"), unless he is asked or prompted to do so; when he does, there is generally a bit of emotional pain evident...I would bet he would rather have his brother back, instead of any fame that has resulted inconsequentially.


That would be like saying that Keith Richards guy would have never made it without Mickey Mouth or that John Lennon fellow was nothing without the "cute one with the droopy eyes" playing the backwards bass.
Also, not to take away from the Fabulous Thunderbirds (one of my three favorite bands of all time--and yes, I like the stuff with and without JLV), they haven't exactly done as well as Jimmie in the ensuing years since his departure.


See above, first section.


Since you expected it...
Just kidding--you know I love you, bro, and respect (and defend) your right to disagree with others.
I mean this in all respect and sincerety--I understand you don't like or "get" Jimmie's fame or popularity, but he doesn't have a big empty bag of nothing; he has his own style, his own ability and was well-respected in the blues commmunity (especially in Texas) both before and after his brother's presence.
I don't "get" Yes, Bon Jovi, Styx, or Boston...that doesn't mean they don't have talent, or that they can or can't out-play me, or anything...it just means I don't like them.
I guess you feel the same way about Jimmie Vaughan...but since you asked what the big deal was, this is just my impression of why he's so popular.

Peace...

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hey at least you beat me up with padded gloves on.
i would love to read that 80's issue your talking about. i bet i use to have it honestly.
i'll agree with jimmy being a local legend i guess.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

thank you screamin for taking the time a do what i didn't want to do.

and way cool i agree with mr. armadillos point that you have every right to not like jimmies guitar playing.

but when you claimed that jimmie has been riding stevies coattails I just had to laugh because that statement showed your ignorance about many facts regarding the vaughns. your second post regarding jimmie vaughn was further proof of you ignorance concerning him. I did take time to point out one of the inaccuracies of that post.

i am sorry if i came off as rude, but i am tired of people giving their opinions in life that are formed or seem to be formed by ignorance and lack of factual knowledge.

as I said you have every right to dislike his guitar playing. if that had been all you posted i may have disagreed but probably would not have called you on that. but i had to laugh and felt compelled to respond when you made the erroneous statement that jimmie is riding stevie,s coattails.

that's a good one...i still get a chuckle out of that...

peace...

All I can say is 5th time watching it, like them all, once again thank you that was a pleasure to see.

Extremely dismayed at Way Cools,s comments on Jimmie.Ignorant remarks!!!!

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well the real kicker is, i did infact learn more about jimmy today and openly confess that hes not that bad of a rhythm player at all, but i still believe what i stated about him.
but please fear not, my opinions of BB King are much worse than jimmy.
but, we could go on and on about how over rated BB really is but ive made my opinions very clear on him over the last yr already.
ill accept the "ignorance" that i have on jimmy as opinion, to each his own remember.
i'll probably always feel that way about jimmy. ive heard a lot of his stuff and have been around long enough to remember his career through most of the 70's up until now.
so thats where a lot of my opinion comes from.
i have to remember, for every name thats in lights there is somebody somewhere that likes them. as a matter of fact this all leads me to go put in the SRV family disc to give it a listen. its been a while. its always been my least fav because of jimmy, but im gonna listen anyways.
please believe, i dont dislike jimmy or BB to be a azz, i just has a very solid opinion about them and their career's. for every positive point one can bring up i can bring up one not so positive. bad way of looking at things i guess. but thats life right, for every positive there is a negitive? oh well, lets agree to disagree on jimmy, deal?

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

C'mon, now Brothers and Sisters--Way Cool Jr's been ostracized* enough already.

Plus, we've all made statement that could rub people the wrong way...you should read what I've written about Yngwie!



*...and for those of us whose native tongue is not English, "ostracized" does not mean "turned into an ostrich."

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by the way, do you mean eugene malmsteen?

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

or do you mean the famous blues player?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SriccGo1k9A

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Yngwie is like the windshield wipers on my old 1964 Ford. They have two speeds--"On" and "Off"...

That dipstick has no taste or soul. He plays blues as well as a fish rides a bicycle.

Dangit, I told you not to get me started on him!

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I take that back--my windshield wipers had both a sense of rhythm and a purpose.

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thats called "attention diversion"

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Great video, thanks for posting! I really enjoyed it.

As for the whole Jimmie Vaughan debate, I think most of what needs to be said already has been. But I'll just throw my two cents in anyway, I can't help myself. lol

I wasn't born yet, but my parents are both Texas natives and they knew Jimmie before Stevie, Stevie was just the "little brother" for a while. I found the early Fabulous Thunderbirds records in their collection but no Stevie. (Which may be due to the fact that my uncles probably stole the Stevie records, which is a bummer.)

I'll admit, there was a time when I completely didn't get Jimmie Vaughan. I had just discovered that I really liked Stevie and Hendrix, and when I saw Jimmie for the first time on youtube I was actually kind of disappointed. But at the time I was coming from a metal/hard rock background so you can understand why. Then I started getting more curious about who influenced SRV and I began listening to more blues players. When I heard Albert Collins and Freddie King suddenly I understood where Jimmie Vaughan was coming from.

A few months later I got to go to the national guitar workshop and he was the guest artist. It's kind of like a concert/workshop thing where he explained some things about what he was playing and even took song requests. He struck me as a really humble guy and I really don't think he'd ever exploit Stevie's name for profit. That's why you don't see SRV merch marketed in every store on the face of the earth (unlike Hendrix, they'll put his name on anything to make it sell). At the workshop he also explained a lot of things about blues and guitar playing to us which I thought were really interesting. For instance, he said he doesn't try and play guitar licks. He listens to sax players and tries to incorporate that into his playing. And you can really hear that in his solo on the video that was posted, that's part of what makes him sound so different from everyone else. He also talked about phrasing, which is something I really needed to hear at the time since I used to just rip through every SRV lick I knew as fast as I could in whatever key I happened to be playing in.

So anyway, the more I listen to him and dig into blues musicians like Gatemouth Brown, Jimmy Reed and Freddie King, the more I like him and appreciate his style.

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If I may, the post pre are a true indication of the great usa spirit, freedom of veiw and opinion, SRV will always be considerd a master of the guitar here at fender forum and rightly so, Jimmi was the brother he looked up to and the driveing force that drove Srv to become what he was, they both should be respected as lifers cuase they have given there lives to there passion, and have given there passion to us to enjoy, like all the great guitar players of the time, we are the ones who are listening to them and enjoying the music they play,why not be thankful for that instead of judgemental of it! think what it would be without there imput??? opinion only.

A wonderful opinion Alex, thank you!

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