yes maybe, but its almost against the law to punish your child if the act out in any way slinger. you cant make your kids mind any more. they can choose not to and your hands are tied bro.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

He,s 8 you walk up take whatever he has and you grab him. If he has a loaded gun thats a diff story. You use pepper spray on a bear not a 8 yr old.

then you get a lawsuite on your hands for "man handling a child".
i think they did the right thing. i bet he thinks twice before he acts up again.
im sure they didnt drinch him like they do adults though.
they have showed up there 3 times on him and hes learned nothing.
he keeps on acting out and causing disruption to the teachers and the class.
the school has been very forgiving in the fact they allowed him to remain in the school system after the first time. he should have been put in detention after bringing it to the point that the police were called the first time, not to mention the 2nd, and now this time as well. how far should children be allowed to push the envelope?
at what age should they be allowed to tell adults, the people in charge what they are or are not gonna do? the situation was bad enough that 2 teachers had to lock thierselves in an office and call the police. what, set him down and have a good talking to him?
set him down in front of psychologists? he broke the law. its plain and simple.
he threatened teachers lives and even said himself he was looking for something sharp incase they came out of the office. his intend is pretty clear i think.
8 yr olds are capable of the type of thinking an adult is in situations like this.
they just cant carry it out like an adult can, but news headlines for decades have shown that they can carry it out just the same.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

+1...Without a firearm, no 8 year old in this world poses enough of a threat that i could not remove the threat very quickly and easily without the need for pepper spray or a tazer. It's unacceptable and a gross abuse of power. Especially considering the kid was in a special school for kids with social issues. So, send your kids to this special school...not for help of course, just because the staff won't be afraid to pepper spray the little bastard if he gets out of line. Sometimes I seriously wonder what happened to common sense in this world.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I didn,t write that. Where did that come from?

you didnt write what bro?

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Thanks so much WCj for dragging a totally non-music related and potentially friction-loaded topic into this otherwise great and friendly forum. And now we can all hobby-psychologically debate how to "deal" with children the "correct" way. My question to you is: Why did you do that? Why did you post the topic? Is there a reason you need to know what we think about it?
I'd much prefer we'd just let these kind of topics slide, leaving them outside of the forum. Cause quite frankly, it's none of our business.
YMMV, JMHO, and all the rest of it.

Sorry, rant over.

Nutter

TimDrakeMusic wrote:
tbazzone wrote:
So, send your kids to this special school...not for help of course, just because the staff won't be afraid to pepper spray the little bastard if he gets out of line.



This

nutter

well first off, because i can, nothing wrong with it.
if you dont like it nobody force you to hit the reply button did they?
i didnt see you on any of these non-related posts (links below) voicing your opinion about what you prefer to be in the lounge. so my question to you is:
why did you feel the need to stop in on MY post and give your opinion of what should or shouldnt be posted but you didnt bother to do the same with any of these?
yet you participate in them even.
if you dont like the topic, avoid it, dont reply, change the channel.
is my topic so far off than anybody elses off topic on here?
so lets make it fair, go in each of these topics and tell them what type of topics
YOU prefer to be in the lounge and which ones you dont. no harm done here is there?
no arguments. no name calling. nobody upset either. so, what makes you want to single my post out and not the others?

sorry rant over.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

i have no idea as tim is the one that said it.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

The topic title made me do it, Way Cool!




Thanks for so much detail in your response, WC, I feel honoured!
I'm sure everyone here knows by now that I'm not interested in namescalling, and all that. I'm usually quite relaxed and easy going. Don't worry, we're good! It was just that nobody asked me for my opinion before, so I took a shot when I got the chance!

Have fun!

Nutter

Hi Nutter this section of the forum has been routinely used for non-guitar,non-music related subjects.We often can partake in exchanges that have varying differences of opinion and yet remain civil and friendly.Rarely are there mean spirited attacks on opinions or personalities because deep down we are a fraternity of people with a common interest that binds us yet I for one enjoy the occasional off topic banter and I'm sure others do as well as long as it's kept friendly and civil.

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What an ignorant point of view. How would you appreciate it if the police force decided that everyone who played guitar was a drug abusing criminal?

Having had the benefit of police officers both in my family, as in-laws, as neighbors, as friends.... Getting the opportunity to interact during traffic stops, in car crashes, and when 911 has been called... I've gotten to hear what their take on life is and get the chance to interact with them on a professional level. While there are some bad apples, there are bad apples in every profession. I have personally never encountered a single police officer that I would consider a bad apple.

Ponder it from this perspective: you have a job where you're supposed to interact with the public, but your interaction will skew towards having a MUCH higher likelihood of dealing with dangerous individuals. In dealing with each and every one of these individuals, you are responsible for ensuring their well-being to the fullest extent possible, even when they attack you. They have no limits as to what behavior they can engage in, but you must respond with a measured level of force such that you minimize the chance that you will be accused of brutality.

While all this is going on, you have no knowledge of what weaponry they may introduce at any point in time during an encounter -- even a peaceful one. In many cases, you are alone or may have an additional officer to assist you, while they may or may not have other individuals ready to become involved on their behalf.

Should an incident escalate to an unfortunate level of violence, you will be accused of various things, even if you were merely engaging in self-defense. Furthermore, the friends and families of individuals engaged in criminal behavior will swear up and down in public that the suspect is an angel -- celebrities and politicians may even get involved. Some of these people may honestly even believe what they are saying, despite every shred of evidence to the contrary.

Most of your days will be boring and routine. Occasionally they'll be punctuated with moments of sheer terror. Other times, you'll be called to a situation where it requires every ounce of self control to not dispense justice on your own (such as domestic violence against children). You'll regularly see things you wish you hadn't (such as someone in a car crash who has been scalped from the eyebrows up, but still fully awake). Regardless, if all goes well, you'll return home and not necessarily be working on the same clock as the rest of your family. They'll try to stay quiet while you hopefully are able to sleep through the middle of the afternoon.

You'll continue doing this until stress and injury take their toll. You'll maybe go on leave, or maybe you'll be lucky enough to have an entire career where you're unscathed. If something goes wrong, you may find yourself without a job, without a pension, and potentially going to jail for a mistake you made or for doing your job properly.

The best part is, all through this, you'll have the public second guessing you and calling you names. Not because of anything you did, but because they had a bad experience one time, or saw a bad experience on TV. All this changes briefly the minute these people need help. And maybe, just maybe, these people will remember that a police officer was there to help them out when they really needed it.

gar1013

thank you for your respectful reply.
there are good cops and there are bad cops. there are good doctors and there are bad doctors. there are good fry guys at fastfood joint and there are bad.
i would like to think that the majority of the cops out there are good guys and gals and care about the public they serve.
its like any other job or title, theres good and bad.
i look at the police officer as a member of our armed forces and respect them as such.
you will find that most people that say they dont like cops will dang sure call them when they need them lol. funny how that works isnt it.
i can see were a run in with a bad cop will give you a bad taste when you depend on them to be fair and respectful in their duities. every so often you will run into the one thats not. while it isnt fair to hold the whole department accountable for the 1 cops
bad behavior i see how folks do it, though it doesnt make it right.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."