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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:06 am
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Shredd6 wrote:
And I think you would be right about that. The JB is a very nice pickup. I'm not much of an over the top Metal type output pickup fan either. Those pickups just scream treble out of them. I like how in the descriptions they'll say "tighter bottom" when in fact it's more like "lack thereof". I personally think humbuckers should have some sense of color and flavor. Good luck man. Sounds like you've made a good choice to me.


lol thanks the dude's gonna kill me no emg's nor floyd just a plain ol fat strat and it's all i need


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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:29 am
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It's a Squier Bullet body, Hamer neck, Dimarzio Super Distortion and Tone Zone pickups. This thing has a lot of power dude. You'd be just fine playing a Strat. Just maybe re-think the guts of it.


by the way i was thinking on a super distortion on one of my guitars for that offspring tone what's your opinion on that? (i love the jb but if the super distortion works might just put it in one of mine)


They're both great, just different. The JB has more treble and sizzle. The Super distortion has more creamy mids. I think it's gonna depend on a personal taste thing. There are a few pickups I've never been without in since the nineties. Super Distortion, Tone Zone, and a Duncan PATB set. As many as I've tried and gone through, those are the ones I can't part with. I always come back to using them.

I don't like a lot of treble in any pickup. I'll use my amp for that. If you look at the eq of the pickups (both Dimarzio and Duncan sites will show you that) you'll see that I favor more mids and bass tones. I just think they distort better for my taste. I don't like ice-picking people to death. At least if I want to pull back on treble, I can do so. If it's built into the makeup of the pickup, I have to live with it.

My personal favorite bridge pickup of all time is the Duncan PATB-3. It's the most versatile humbucker I use. Not sure how to describe it other than it can do everything. I used it a lot on our album. If you click the reverb nation link in my sig, you can get a sample of what it sounds like. The solo for "Recession" (the clean stuff as well), The cleans in "Hold Me In Your Arms". You can see how I can still pull as much treble out of it that I want as well as getting great mids and bass. I can tell you that when it comes to REALLY overdriving, it's just awesome!! Best of the bunch. None of my pickups could touch it when I was playing hard-core. And if you look on the Duncan site.. It's listed as moderate output. Exactly HOW moderate Duncan considers it, I'm not sure. I don't think the DC resistance tells the whole story. Sounds just as powerful as my Super and Tone Zone.

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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:31 pm
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You should be good go to with any guitar with humbuckers. Trem not so much. Throw in a little wah wah and see wat happens.


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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:28 pm
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ok first off, sorry but your bass player is an idiot. the trem has nothing to do with "power"
period. sounds to me like he might just have a problem with you, or himself actually.
my main guitar is a HW1 strat, 69ers in the neck and middle, and a JB jr in the bridge.
i can play any type of music i need to with that guitar and keep up with the best of tones outside of jazz. or maybe the dude is just trying to sound educated about your tone or whats being played around him. the floyd has its place. ive been playing them
since they came out before they had fine tuners. i have plenty of guitars with them on there and will continue to buy guitars with floyds.
i also have nonlocking trems and they too have their place. i like both for different reasons. stick with what you like bro. hell use one of each when playing out.
what you need to do is this, tell your bass player that you will be very happy to play whatever he buys you, until then your gonna get the job done with the tools you have.
man what is it lately on here? so many posts about what other band members think another should be playing/writing.
i remember when we had respect for our band mates. the only thing we worried about was if the next guy was getting his job done. we didnt give a flying rats $@! what he played, what color it was, who made it, where it was made, or how many he had.
we were way to damn busy making sure we were bringing enough to the table, making our lists and checking them twice. whats with people today? im gonna put a cover band together hopefully this fall. is this what i have to deal with on the next go? seriously?
oh hell no. well honestly, i have enough gear to cover everything pretty much but i'll be damned if i am gonna go through some of the sissy BS i hear some of you have to go through. everybody has their shiot together enough that they have time to worry about what gear im playing? if my tone is off tell me. if my timing is off, please tell me.
if im missing a part in a song tell me. if i need to work on a part here or there, im open to suggestions. DONT start telling me i need to change my gear. if i need to add an effect thats one thing, but stay the hell off my gear of choice. there again, i too will be very happy to play whatever gear one buys me, until that happen F off. :wink:
(wow, sorry about that. looks like i got carried away there for a minute)

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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:35 pm
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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:43 am
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way cool jr wrote:
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i remember when we had respect for our band mates. the only thing we worried about was if the next guy was getting his job done. we didnt give a flying rats $@! what he played, what color it was, who made it, where it was made, or how many he had.
we were way to damn busy making sure we were bringing enough to the table, making our lists and checking them twice. whats with people today? im gonna put a cover band together hopefully this fall. is this what i have to deal with on the next go? seriously?
oh hell no. well honestly, i have enough gear to cover everything pretty much but i'll be damned if i am gonna go through some of the sissy BS i hear some of you have to go through. everybody has their shiot together enough that they have time to worry about what gear im playing? if my tone is off tell me. if my timing is off, please tell me.
if im missing a part in a song tell me. if i need to work on a part here or there, im open to suggestions. DONT start telling me i need to change my gear. if i need to add an effect thats one thing, but stay the hell off my gear of choice. there again, i too will be very happy to play whatever gear one buys me, until that happen F off. :wink:
(wow, sorry about that. looks like i got carried away there for a minute)


cheers to you pal my band is way behind cause of this guy he's never satisfied with anything


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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:23 am
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........... then its him and not you bro. congratz, we just found the problem.
usually folks like this will blame this type of attitude on their quest for
music creativity. well thats BS. they themselves have a couple deep seeded issues and
start to take it out on anybody and everybody they can, and oh by the way,
nothing is ever their fault either. does he do everybody in the band like this or just you?
i think its time for a set down with your buddy and explain a few things to him,
#1 being exactly how things are gonna work from that point forward.
a lot of guys confuse the battle of the bands. they dont realize its band against band.
they think its battle within the bands. that kind of attutide really brings the band down as a unit. often times its not realized until damage has been done and often time beyond repair. attitude in bands is something i wont myself put up with. its a creativity destroyer and a buzz killer for everybody. dont let 1 man sink the ship brother.
set him down and talk with him like a friend. i do warn you, it will be a touch situation and feeling will arise. for best results, dont make him feel like hes being attacked, that would be wrong and a nice big spark to fuel a fire with.
if it keeps happening, set him down again. remind him of the first conversation and the things that were talked about. let him know that hes still a important part of the band and the vibe of the band, but things are gonna have to change for the band.
let him know if it continues that changes will have to be made, again for the band, and remind him that it can very well effect friendships by adding unneeded stress.
then if it continues, stand firm and strong as a band and ask him to leave the group
and under no reason change your mind on it. everybody deserves a second chance in my opinion, and by this point hes had his respectivly.

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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:06 am
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Is it music or a macho stand-in for a MMA match? Way Cool Jr. (and others) are giving you the grown-up POV. If your bass player wants more "power", turn it up to eleven and ask him if that's enough sand for his sandbox. In any endeavor, whether it's playing or digging a ditch, I despise having to work with children unless they are, well, children, you know, kids. Then I'm fine with them.


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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:17 am
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Love my Floyd'd guitars.

I do use another guitar for different tunings (a tele). But my Jackson is prime gigging equipment. It is never out of tune, ever, not once.

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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:24 am
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nikininja wrote:
Love my Floyd'd guitars.

I do use another guitar for different tunings (a tele). But my Jackson is prime gigging equipment. It is never out of tune, ever, not once.



and i believe that whole heartedly too niki.
there is a saying about the right tool for the job and i believe in that too.
the floyd was/is a great design and it does its job really well. sure they can be a slight pain at times but when its set up right they are spot on fun machines.
there are low quality aftermarket copies, and thats a whole different subject, but the
trem in question was designed to rock with the best of us and it truely has too.

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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:28 am
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oh niki, just for the rub it in my face kinda post, show us your jackson again.
you know i love jacksons. the jackson neck just has to be played to be understood.
though jackson has put out a few models who necks feel like logs, the majority feel
like heaven in your hands.

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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:33 am
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Never had any tuning problems with any of my strats or my tele. Even after not being played for weeks I can pick them up and play in tune. If anything after a long time or extreme weather change I have a little tweaking to do. I believe it has a lot to do with using good strings and proper tuning/wrapping techniques. JMHO. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:46 am
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fhopkins wrote:
Never had any tuning problems with any of my strats or my tele. Even after not being played for weeks I can pick them up and play in tune. If anything after a long time or extreme weather change I have a little tweaking to do. I believe it has a lot to do with using good strings and proper tuning/wrapping techniques. JMHO. :wink:



you sir are correct, again. thats exactly what it is, and a bit more. thing is, its mostly
stuff thats 99% controlable. that leaves a very small percentage to allow for flawed parts
and the likes. i use to know a guy that played this old sears pos guitar out live. ok he had guitars that most of us would die just to hold ok, but he liked the damn thing.
i got to roadie for the band for a couple seasons. he played that guitar nightly too.
gotta tell ya, i dont ever remember him tuning up except before the curtain went up and the lights came on. he took the time to dial that guitar in to his likings.
thats not something you can do on a weekend when your as demanding as he was.
it takes time and some experience. i had my way with any piece of gear he had except 1, that damn guitar. NOBODY was ever allowed to even touch it.
it looked like shiot but man it sounded amazing.
im sure that old man has long left us, as this was back in the 80's/early 90's,
i just wonder whoever got that guitar if they treasure it like he did.

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Post subject: Re: floyd rose... wat's the use?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:55 am
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ah yes, i love those dang jacksons.
they were a fine bunch. i dont care where they were made, or by whom, the charvel/jackson guitar is a high quality guitar until the ugly low end versions came out.
hated that they targeted the newbie market. the USA made and the majority of the overseas made played and felt the same in the early to mid yrs. they were all quality and more than able to get the job done. there was a reason that charvel,jaskson, and kramer ruled the 80's. if you dont know guys, play one and make sure your amp is turned up, your gonna be there a while i promise you. i remember walking in to the better guitar stores back in those days. wow, they were the true "candy stores".
there was every color and flavor you mind could imagine. you just stood there for a minute looking. ya just didnt know which one to grab. rarely was it the one you went to see that you actually picked up first lol.

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