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Post subject: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:50 pm
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I want to see if I can build one. :D

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:14 am
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I would check out buildyourownclone.com--there are several guys and gals that have used their kits to build effects, amps, etc.

They have instructions on how to make an analog delay (with their parts, of course). Here's the link:

http://buildyourownclone.com/analogdelayinstructions.pdf

It's cool that you're already wanting to build pedals. Who knows? You might be the next Jim Dunlop or Bob Bradshaw
I don't want to discourage you in any way, but you'll see the instructions involve more than just a little soldering and some ability to read schematics, resister/capacitor values, etc. (Although the PDF file I posted above is pretty straightforward). If you don't have any experience doing things like this, I would try to find someone who will let you look over their shoulder and/or help you to do such things. Also, a simpler circuit like an overdrive, boost pedal or distortion might be easier; the analog delays can get a bit detailed.

A good way to get started on things like this is to do a simple modification on an existing pedal, such as the famous (or infamous) R28 modification for the modern MXR Phase 90 pedals (don't do that to a vintage Phase 90, please) or replacing the internal personality slider switch with an external switch on an MXR M-66 Classic Overdrive. Little mods like this can build up some soldering skills and give you the confidence to go deeper.

I hope this doesn't discourage you--I know you'll be able to do things like this, whether you do it completely on your own or have some help. Whether you start small (like a mod) or go big (like the analog delay you want to build), it's really cool that you have the desire to do so. 8)

When you build or mod anything, please post it here for all of us to see--like I said, someday you might be charging us big bucks to build custom boutique pedals! (Just remember that I encouraged you and give me a big discount when that day comes! :lol: )

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:16 am
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
I would check out buildyourownclone.com--there are several guys and gals that have used their kits to build effects, amps, etc.

They have instructions on how to make an analog delay (with their parts, of course). Here's the link:

http://buildyourownclone.com/analogdelayinstructions.pdf

It's cool that you're already wanting to build pedals. Who knows? You might be the next Jim Dunlop or Bob Bradshaw
I don't want to discourage you in any way, but you'll see the instructions involve more than just a little soldering and some ability to read schematics, resister/capacitor values, etc. (Although the PDF file I posted above is pretty straightforward). If you don't have any experience doing things like this, I would try to find someone who will let you look over their shoulder and/or help you to do such things. Also, a simpler circuit like an overdrive, boost pedal or distortion might be easier; the analog delays can get a bit detailed.

A good way to get started on things like this is to do a simple modification on an existing pedal, such as the famous (or infamous) R28 modification for the modern MXR Phase 90 pedals (don't do that to a vintage Phase 90, please) or replacing the internal personality slider switch with an external switch on an MXR M-66 Classic Overdrive. Little mods like this can build up some soldering skills and give you the confidence to go deeper.

I hope this doesn't discourage you--I know you'll be able to do things like this, whether you do it completely on your own or have some help. Whether you start small (like a mod) or go big (like the analog delay you want to build), it's really cool that you have the desire to do so. 8)

When you build or mod anything, please post it here for all of us to see--like I said, someday you might be charging us big bucks to build custom boutique pedals! (Just remember that I encouraged you and give me a big discount when that day comes! :lol: )

Thanks :D I allready built my own effect using an old round dial telphone .the effect sionds cool. It clicks your guitar on and off when you turn thr dial. start at one and turn to the number of clicks you want. I also moded my DoD classic tube overdrive. It now takes a Boss AC plug in and has an easy to see yellow LED light. Now I know when its on or off :lol:

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:18 am
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That's cool 8) ...you obviously have some skills way beyond your years (especially if your signature line "only twelve years old" is true).

I say go for it--everything I hear about the BYOC pedals is positive, so one of those kits would be a great start. Be sure to take lots of pics along the way and post them here...if you can, post some sound clips, too.

...and remember, when you own the greatest effects pedal and amplifier company in the world, your old buddy Screamin' Armadillo really encouraged you! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:46 am
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Thanks again,(and I will give you 50% off any pedal I make :lol: ).And yes I am only 12 years old :D

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:30 am
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since you're the real inventive type try to get your hands on an old reel to reel tape recorder, loop a small piece of recording tape around so it continuously loops around, remove the erase head (tape echo, tape delay), have fun.

or, record a guitar piece on the tape recorder, while replaying put your finger on the reel to change the speed (flanger)


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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:37 am
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super kid wrote:
Thanks again,(and I will give you 50% off any pedal I make :lol: ).And yes I am only 12 years old :D


Deal! :lol:

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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:45 am
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Super Kid very cool indeed. I'm a huge fan BYOC. You can learn a lot from these kits. general guitar gadgets are another one.

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 am
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Super Kid very cool indeed.

+1

See if you can get your hands on (or build) something like an old Echoplex.....

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:14 am
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Hi Screamin' Armadillo: that was a good post, above.

At the end of it I noticed this:
Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
...someday you might be charging us big bucks to build custom boutique pedals!

That is more true than people might realise. Pedals and related gizmos are where the real money is at! Recently Forum user Nutter shared these very interesting music business stats with me:

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We all know that Fender are the single biggest guitar maker in the world. Yet Roland/Boss are half as big again. Never mind timber: electronics is the part of this business to be in! Who knew?

By the way, just look at how Yamaha are bigger than everyone else put together. Obviously, that is a company with a wider range of activity than just guitars and drum kits. But it all began for them with grand pianos and instrument making is still the core of their company.

Bit tangental in relation to the original post - but it might give food for thought to a smart electronics minded 12 year old...

Cheers - C

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:07 pm
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:lol: :mrgreen: I think I know what I'm doing when I grow up!

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:53 am
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super kid wrote:
:lol: :mrgreen: I think I know what I'm doing when I grow up!


But I'm Not going to go to Japan or China,USA USA USA USA USA USA. Did I get my point across? I gues not I'll try again,USA USA USA USA USA USA. That should do it. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: how does an analog delay work?
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:02 pm
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super kid wrote:
USA USA USA USA USA USA. Did I get my point across? I gues not I'll try again,USA USA USA USA USA USA. That should do it. :lol:


Hmmm. Well, maybe growing up first and then deciding would be a good idea after all! :-)

There are many qualities to be found in many different countries on this planet. Take some time to check them out!

Good idea on the telephone effect! Keep inventing!

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