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Post subject: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:29 pm
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Lately the guitar people in my life and even a few members here that I've noticed seem to want to re-invent the wheel. I realise everybody wants to feel like they're unique but sometimes it's just dumb. People need to realize there are certain ways to do stuff and that's it. Young fellow, son of a friend, asks me last night how to get a Stevie Ray tone out of his rig. He's got an Epiphone Les Paul and a Line-6 Spider. I shake my head. His dad, my friend, (non-player) say's what's wrong, it's a legitimate question. I grab a pencil from the counter and write down, Fender 1962 Strat Re-Issue & Fender Vibroverb Amp. He says, Yah yah, of course but how does he get that sound using the stuff he's already got? I say, same way you haul a 60,000 pound load of logs from the bush to the sawmill with a 1982 Toyota Tercel. Then it was his turn to shake his head at me.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:46 pm
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Ha! You can't get there from here.
I like the Toyota analogy.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:48 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
I say, same way you haul a 60,000 pound load of logs from the bush to the sawmill with a 1982 Toyota Tercel. Then it was his turn to shake his head at me.


LMFAO

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:54 pm
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good story Bro. I thought, make it go faster in sort of "the same way" thing.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:05 pm
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I Think If People Spent A Little Less Time Trying To Sound Like Someone Else We Might Hear Them On The Radio.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:06 pm
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Great analogy!


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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:35 pm
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Thanks. For What I Paid For My 57 Vhr Ri I Could Have Spent A Little More For A Sig Guitar. I Didn't Want One. I Also Play My Guitar Through A 30 Yr Old Musicmaster Bass Amp. No Effects. That's My Sound. At Least Untill I Buy A New Amp.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:45 am
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i think i dig what your saying, are you saying that there are to many people trying to be other artists?

i really dont like it when someone asks "how do i get *whatserfaces* tone?" i mean, c'mon, find one that expresses YOU, not *whatserface*

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:03 am
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Your sir did the right thing here.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:45 am
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I Will Say I Really Like What Pete Townshend Did With The Eric Clapton Strat But Look At The Mods On It. I Would Like To Play One Of Pete's Guitars To Hear Hear How It Sounds. Would I Like It For All Music I Play Though. I Dont Know.

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:03 am
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Yes, I would agree with what everyone is saying about making your own sound…

But I also support the view, particularly among us newbie’s. That we would like to sound like our hero’s some of the time.. When I play Hendrix, Clapton, et al. I Pick up my Start, for BB King, John Lee, it’s the 335, and for most basic practice and Santana it’s my SG…This of course begs the question why did I buy the J6?.…I also have a Valve / digital amp. Marshall AVT 50 and a Zoom 200, and by the way.. while hoping to. I’m not suggesting I “ do “ sound like the above………….Just in case someone wishes to sticks the verbal boot in again…

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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:10 am
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ive seen a pic of SRV playing a les paul somewhere, and i bet you he sounded like SRV!
someone said on this forum (forget where i read it) little wing is played on Jimis flying V and he sounds like Jimi.


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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:24 am
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Personally “ How defensive am I getting ? Not like me )

I have looked up Little Wing on the Googly thing. Jimmy and SRV plus some good armatures. Always the Strat.

Just a thought.


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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:30 am
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i read the studio version was playing on the flying V


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Post subject: Re: Re-inventing the wheel.
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:35 am
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radio_friendly_unit_shifter wrote:
i think i dig what your saying, are you saying that there are to many people trying to be other artists?

i really dont like it when someone asks "how do i get *whatserfaces* tone?" i mean, c'mon, find one that expresses YOU, not *whatserface*


I think he's saying that you need the right tools for the job.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm a tone chaser... and yup, it's SRV's. I have an SRV sig, a 64 Vibroverb Custom and a TS808 True Vintage modded by Analogman... how's that for chasing tone?

Do I sound like Stevie? NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!

... and I don't have any illusions of ever sounding like Stevie but I love the big thick dark gnarly tone and that's what expresses ME and my style.

I know Cobain is a big influence on you Shifty and I bet you choose your gear for that style of music. You're getting a Blacktop right? Good choice, it has humbuckers which I think are better suited than single coils. You probably wouldn't use an overdrive either, distortion is the way to go. See what I mean, it's all about picking the right tools.

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