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Post subject: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:50 pm
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So I'm new to amplified music. Used to be a classical violinist. Got into rock music. Got into guitar pedals. Been running them right into a mixer and then into a PA. Sounds good on the violin stuff, but when I run the violin into a bass pedal (such as the boss oc-3 or the Electro Harmonix POG or POG2) I'm not getting the sound I want.

So my question is... how does this usually work? Bass into a bass amp? Then how does the amp get into the PA? Do you mic the amp? Is the amp going to help me get the sound I want? If money were no object, what amp should I get? What other equipment would I want? We have shows in NYC this weekend and are going to go amp shopping. Any suggestions?

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Post subject: Re: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:55 pm
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adamd wrote:
So I'm new to amplified music. Used to be a classical violinist. Got into rock music. Got into guitar pedals. Been running them right into a mixer and then into a PA. Sounds good on the violin stuff, but when I run the violin into a bass pedal (such as the boss oc-3 or the Electro Harmonix POG or POG2) I'm not getting the sound I want.

So my question is... how does this usually work? Bass into a bass amp? Then how does the amp get into the PA? Do you mic the amp? Is the amp going to help me get the sound I want? If money were no object, what amp should I get? What other equipment would I want? We have shows in NYC this weekend and are going to go amp shopping. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Adam


Bass guitar - to DI (aka, direct box). A DI has 2 outputs--one to go to the bass amp and one to go to the PA. If you want to use effects pedals put them between the bass and the DI. Also, most professional bass amps have built in "Direct Outs" or "Line Outs" which can be used to go from the amp to the PA; in other words, no DI needed.

For moderately loud gigs (80 to 100 dB) for less than 100 patrons, you will not need to run the bass to the PA if you have a reasonably powered amp.

Tell us more about your music style, etc.


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Post subject: Re: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:22 am
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Maybe its not making the sounds you want because bass gear is generally designed for lower frequencies than guitar gear, and violins are more within the same area of the frequency spectrum as guitars.

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Post subject: Re: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:48 am
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Tochai wrote:
Maybe its not making the sounds you want because bass gear is generally designed for lower frequencies than guitar gear, and violins are more within the same area of the frequency spectrum as guitars.


Absolutely.

Myself if I were looking to amplify a violin, I'd look at keyboard amps or as Tochai says a acoustic guitar amp.

This out of Roland looks to meet your requirements.

http://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Roland-KC-880-Keyboard-Amp/9YC

Just line out from the amp into the desk.

Or this out of Marshall.
http://www.megamusicshop.com/product_info.php?language=gb&refID=baseuk&info=p1776_Marshall-AS-100D-Acoustic-Combo.html

Imagine that a Strad into a Marshall. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:30 pm
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Something on the higher end:
http://www.acousticguitarcommunity.com/video/ultrasound-pro250-review

And another alternative:
http://www.acousticguitarcommunity.com/video/2161554:Video:183

When I was shopping I chose the Genz Benz for the warmer, rounder sound and it's a wonderful amp.

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Post subject: Re: Very Basic Bass Amp Question
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:06 am
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In this opinion, Fender's Acoustasonic SFX is an outstanding amp for the small-venue acoustic guitar-violin-harp-voice-mandolin range, un-mic-ed.

The Line 6 Spider Jam will do the job very well for bout half the price at meaurably less pure sound quality.

For Bass...bass amp. In this opinion, if you can, do it right, if you are gigging.


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