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Post subject: Re: Jeff Beck? WTF?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:31 pm
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Jeff can be an aquired taste for some new students to the guitar. His technique is beautifully impossible to copy. His vocal like expressions on the guitar make me think he could walk in to any restaraunt, play his order to the waitress on the guitar, and she would bring back what ever he was thinking about eating as he played. :lol:


And there we have it back to the stoned special kid in the corner that could not be bothered learning scale after scale key after key, Mode after Mode, Arpeggio after Arpeggio so he got fingered and tried to make the strat talk with the trem and the volume!!!! And made millions!!!! God bless him!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

y'know what, i usually only do this on boards where i dont actually give a damn and just want to troll, but screw it...

youre an idiot. plain and simple. not coming back to this useless topic



And as i see your still browsing the topic... So your full of sheit as well........

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Post subject: Re: Jeff Beck? WTF?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:46 pm
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Beck is one of my favorites, and he's earned the right to play differently and experiment with sounds--because, most of the time, it works.

But maybe he isn't for everybody--if you don't get him, that's fine--plenty of people out there to listen to--and some of them, I don't get--but people love them.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:55 pm
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Beck is one of my favorites, and he's earned the right to play differently and experiment with sounds--because, most of the time, it works.

But maybe he isn't for everybody--if you don't get him, that's fine--plenty of people out there to listen to--and some of them, I don't get--but people love them.


That's it huh, One mans trash is another mans treasure, Opinion is subjective in within the eye of the beholder.

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Post subject: Re: Jeff Beck? WTF?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:19 pm
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ozrv wrote:
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Beck is one of my favorites, and he's earned the right to play differently and experiment with sounds--because, most of the time, it works.

But maybe he isn't for everybody--if you don't get him, that's fine--plenty of people out there to listen to--and some of them, I don't get--but people love them.


That's it huh, One mans trash is another mans treasure, Opinion is subjective in within the eye of the beholder.

Or the ear of the "belistener" :)

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Post subject: Re: Jeff Beck? WTF?
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:04 am
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ozrv wrote:
zontar wrote:
Beck is one of my favorites, and he's earned the right to play differently and experiment with sounds--because, most of the time, it works.

But maybe he isn't for everybody--if you don't get him, that's fine--plenty of people out there to listen to--and some of them, I don't get--but people love them.


That's it huh, One mans trash is another mans treasure, Opinion is subjective in within the eye of the beholder.


Could have saved a lot of dust getting kicked up by answering your own question with this line. I have a feeling you didn't really want an answer anyway.


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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:15 am
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zontar wrote:
Beck is one of my favorites, and he's earned the right to play differently and experiment with sounds--because, most of the time, it works.

But maybe he isn't for everybody--if you don't get him, that's fine--plenty of people out there to listen to--and some of them, I don't get--but people love them.


That's it huh, One mans trash is another mans treasure, Opinion is subjective in within the eye of the beholder.


Could have saved a lot of dust getting kicked up by answering your own question with this line. I have a feeling you didn't really want an answer anyway.



Bang on, If it was the above statement i wanted confirmed/gratified. But i wanted to see what a forum full of guitar passionates really thought about a guy's style which in total diplomatic terms slips me by. I received some really honest passionate answers in a forum to discuss/debate various topics related to Fender instruments that i hold in high regard. Was just genuine interest of what people with more experience than i thought. Was great. That aside, I will hug anyone who needs one!!! But there is sites with forums for that exact thing!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :) :) :) :)

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:37 am
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To the OP: I think guitar playing (music in general) isn't about "look how skilled he is!". It's rather the way someone does things. Sometimes you have more 'feel' towards artist A than artist B. I think you need to find out what you like best and more importantly: why! This way you know why you like artist A.

I feel you on Jeff Beck, but I know why. I just don't like to hear guitar alone (basically a 7 minute guitar solo). What I like is the combination of guitar and voice (words not necessarily, just the melody of the voice combined with the melody of the guitar). I don't want to get all analytical with what I like but these are some basics. It does not mean I think the guy is crap, you'll just not find me standing in the crowd.

Another thing: when someone is loved by so many, people tend to doubt themselves why they don't like him/her themselves. It's not wrong! What if we all liked the same person...? Great thing about guitarist: there are so many and they all differ...


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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:57 am
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abzoluut wrote:
To the OP: I think guitar playing (music in general) isn't about "look how skilled he is!". It's rather the way someone does things. Sometimes you have more 'feel' towards artist A than artist B. I think you need to find out what you like best and more importantly: why! This way you know why you like artist A.

Ahh ok!..... Yeah agreed, i wouldn't quite hit it that hard but yeah......

I feel you on Jeff Beck, but I know why. I just don't like to hear guitar alone (basically a 7 minute guitar solo). What I like is the combination of guitar and voice (words not necessarily, just the melody of the voice combined with the melody of the guitar). I don't want to get all analytical with what I like but these are some basics. It does not mean I think the guy is crap, you'll just not find me standing in the crowd.

Maybe, But the influence of voice in music is totally different...to me," I could listen to david gilmore bending slowly for hours solo" As against not understanding or feeling a certain style... to great degree. Thank you for your point of view.

Another thing: when someone is loved by so many, people tend to doubt themselves why they don't like it themselves. It's not wrong! What if we all liked the same person... Great thing about guitarist: there are so many and they all differ...


I could not agree more.

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:13 am
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I'm sorry but Beck's musicality is very apparent to the likes of the London Symphony Orchestra (recorded on Emotion and Commotion) and world reknown violinists. These people que to play with Beck. He's far from just some chancer who revolves everything round a minor or major pentatonic. Are they even scales??? Really???? I thought they were modes.

Blues is boring, it's boring to play, it's boring to listen to. It was all done 50 odd years ago. If the guitar playing community stays focused on such archaic nonsense, we'll end up with another synth era. Just like we did when everybody got fed up of metal in the early 80's.
Let alone even consider long dead guitarists as being slightly relevant today, despite families strip mining their archives for material the artist didn't think good enough to release.

Please refrain from using vulgarity, even if adjusting of spelling makes it pass the censor program. It's not big, or clever. Infact it shows severe frustration on your part Ozrv. So much frustration that you're willing to bend the rules of language to suit your outbursts.

Not good mate. Chill out a bit eh?

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:44 am
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Blues is boring, it's boring to play, it's boring to listen to.


I think there are many that wouldn't agree, including me, but difference is what makes music interesting. If we all liked and played the same stuff, think how boring that would be.

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Post subject: Re: Jeff Beck? WTF?
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:56 am
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Yeah granted Mike, but when it's all you play, ever. All you ever listen to. Something is wrong. Theres a lot more to music than blues, isn't there?

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:28 am
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Yeah granted Mike, but when it's all you play, ever. All you ever listen to. Something is wrong. Theres a lot more to music than blues, isn't there?


There sure is, but there is also many that eat, sleep and live to master the blues. At some of the jams I've been to and even hosted, they've admitted it.

Interesting read on "don't be a Blues Nazi" :

http://nashvillemusicianssurvivalmanual.com/Blog/?p=209

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:37 am
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Yeah granted Mike, but when it's all you play, ever. All you ever listen to. Something is wrong. Theres a lot more to music than blues, isn't there?


There sure is, but there is also many that eat, sleep and live to master the blues. At some of the jams I've been to and even hosted, they've admitted it.

Interesting read on "don't be a Blues Nazi" :

http://nashvillemusicianssurvivalmanual.com/Blog/?p=209

i enjoyed this read Mike. As I just played my first live blues jam last Tuesday and I am going back for round 2 tonight. It was so much fun. granted, I haven't played guitar long, truly about a year and a half if you count the amount time I have been focused every day on it. I messed up a lot and my leads weren't great, but it was fun and thats what it should be about. A bunch of guys coming together to work on their blues, share music with the crowd that they may have never heard before and just have fun. I had a few people come up to me afterwards and ask "what was that first song you played?" or to say I did well and to keep on picking and having fun. I'll be a lot less nervous tonight and expect the result to be much better. BUT,
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:50 am
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Whilst that was a great read and shares a lot of ideas that I regard as being wrong with the guitar community in general. I think the term Blue's Nazi is a bit strong, and somewhat offensive to people victim of real nazi's. I prefer the term 'narrow minded pratt'.
You get them people at all jam nights, not just blues. The idiot who thinks the only person with a right to be heard is (usually) him.

All I think is that theres way more to music to limit yourself to one style. It's an absolute shame that anyone should waste their talent so.

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nikininja wrote:
I'm sorry but Beck's musicality is very apparent to the likes of the London Symphony Orchestra (recorded on Emotion and Commotion) and world reknown violinists. These people que to play with Beck. He's far from just some chancer who revolves everything round a minor or major pentatonic. Are they even scales??? Really???? I thought they were modes.

Blues is boring, it's boring to play, it's boring to listen to. It was all done 50 odd years ago. If the guitar playing community stays focused on such archaic nonsense, we'll end up with another synth era. Just like we did when everybody got fed up of metal in the early 80's.
Let alone even consider long dead guitarists as being slightly relevant today, despite families strip mining their archives for material the artist didn't think good enough to release.

Please refrain from using vulgarity, even if adjusting of spelling makes it pass the censor program. It's not big, or clever. Infact it shows severe frustration on your part Ozrv. So much frustration that you're willing to bend the rules of language to suit your outbursts.

Not good mate. Chill out a bit eh?


Lol..Right O Wayne. Sorry!!! Easy!!!! ciao!!

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