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Post subject: Re: Somebody talk some sense into me...
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:44 pm
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Oh and just so everyone knows, none of you have to pitch in if you don't want to. If you really do want to, then cool. But if not, don't feel obligated. I really appreciate just the gesture of you guys wanting to pitch in. :D That in and of itself means a lot to me.


TGS believe me, if anyone helps out with this project it is because we want to! :D Your post above is just more evidence of the kind of person you are, which is why many will step forward to do something cool for you. I think your humbleness, positive attitude, and obvious love of music really do make you a star around this place. I for one look forward to hear what you can do with a real pro quality instrument (not a slam on your current guitars). I'm sure there will be much more to come ...

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:41 pm
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TGS....

Is Guitar Builder working for you to design a Strat but more importantly to save as a preset and post so we can all be on the same page.


I feel really silly now, I just now noticed the Guitar Builder part of the site. :lol: I think I'm going to have some fun playing around with it. :D
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I'll begin by mentioning that I have a set of Gotoh's Vintage Tuners in Gold. I cannot envision using them as I prefer a modern style. In addition to style, two of my strats are in Gold hardware, that is enough.

But since it seems ( if I'm guessing correctly ) that you are going for a vintage style (SRV) then those may work for you.


Well, honestly gold isn't my favorite color for hardware but Gotoh's are nice tuners and I'm certainly not going to be picky about color for something like this. :)
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Any one else for Input :?: :?: Ceri :?: Kong :?: :?:

Importantly I also suggest that any parts that you receive be sent to a P.O. Box, not an actual street address.
Since this is a public forum, it is best to keep the Gremlins and Trolls out..


I think my parents still have a P.O. Box which they used for their business way back when. But I'm not 100% sure they still have it or not. I'll check with them.
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Oh and there is ONE critical requirement... PIcs...Pics...Pics so we all see the project from design to completion...

Sounds like Fun... An International Strat....


No problems there, I'm an obsessive picture taker when it comes to anything guitar related. 8)

Oh, and I didn't get a chance to go to Guitar Center today. I wish they were open later, but I think I will have a chance to go Tuesday morning. Tuesday afternoon is when I'm thinking I'll pay my friend for the Highway One. I think I'll be able to make a decision for sure by then since on Monday I'm taking it to the shop to set it up how I'd like and that will be important in determining whether to keep it. My main problem with it was going to the cost of refret, but since that's been taken care of I think it wouldn't be smart to pass it up.

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Post subject: Re: Somebody talk some sense into me...
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:55 pm
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TGS..

Did you go to the http://www.bhefner.com site :?: I'm asking since on the necks they offer you can customize the radius, nut width, neck profile as well as style 70's or standard head or perhaps even a Tele style head.
Unconventional but since it is going to be a personal build, it has to fit like a glove.

As well as the strat bodies, all have different contours depending on the style and year...

I think that as everyone who wants to be involved "pitches in", we need to keep it as simple as possible as we are all going to have to speak the same language as far as dimensions, especially where the bridge is concerned, An MIA, MIM bridge I believe are different dimensions depending on the dates of manufacture.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:28 pm
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Did you go to the http://www.bhefner.com site :?: I'm asking since on the necks they offer you can customize the radius, nut width, neck profile as well as style 70's or standard head or perhaps even a Tele style head.
Unconventional but since it is going to be a personal build, it has to fit like a glove.

As well as the strat bodies, all have different contours depending on the style and year...


I did, and I really liked what I saw. :) They have a lot of different options for necks. I'm also familiar with Warmoth and Allparts. I think that if I order through work I can get a decent discount from Allparts.

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Post subject: Re: Somebody talk some sense into me...
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:49 pm
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53magnatone wrote:
Importantly I also suggest that any parts that you receive be sent to a P.O. Box, not an actual street address.
Since this is a public forum, it is best to keep the Gremlins and Trolls out..


I think my parents still have a P.O. Box which they used for their business way back when. But I'm not 100% sure they still have it or not. I'll check with them.

That is important: we all know there is a small but very nasty element out there in cyberspace. But TGS is a very smart young woman and it's easy to keep this thing friendly and safe with just a little intelligence.

TGS, it sounds like you get on well with your parents so keeping them up to speed from the start is half the job done. After that, a PO box, someone's work address - something like that. Perhaps we could even go via Brad? Easy.

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And Ceri, I think I would be interested in hearing more about those pickups. The current pickups in my MIM are dull and awful, so a replacement would be wonderful!

OK, well it is a set of the single coil pickups they put in American Standard Strats. Some like them and some don't: personally I like 'em: I've never found a reason to swap out the stock pups in any Fender guitar - but you need to be absolutely free to express your own preference here. No pressure.

The story behind this set is that when I was doing one of my build threads out of the blue Forum user Gratz sent them to me so's I could maybe use them in a future build project. Just like that - can you think of anything nicer? We don't see him round here much at the moment because he's working overtime on the restaurant he set up about a year ago in Tuscon - Cafe Tremolo. However, he is just one of the very nicest and most generous spirited people on this Forum - and probably on the rest of the planet too! A stand up guy.

I'm quite busy myself and haven't got around to building a guitar around those pickups yet. Eventually I will - but frankly this seems like a much more deserving purpose for the pups and will get them making music sooner (and better!). I emailed Gratz before posting on this thread and he's very happy with the arrangement if you're interested, TGS.

So be very clear: any credit on this pickup set belongs absolutely to Gratz, not to me. And that means I'm also keen to play my part in any other aspects of this project too!

This is the sort of thing that takes the sometimes silly world of forums to a higher level - right people? :D

Later - C

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:16 pm
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well why not just put down a few hundred on an Epiphone semi-hollow. Do some gigs with that, save up the money and use it to upgrade the Squire? Now, I'm no expert on neck switching and pickups, but from what it sounds like you'd spend alot of money on upgrading rather than buying a guitar you really want. From people that I know they love the tone on the Epiphone semi-hollow. But that's what I would do, invest in a new guitar. Play some gigs with it, put the money away to buy the upgrades for your Squire.

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Whilst I do agree with the sentiment that good gear eventualy becomes a must.
Don't worry about it. You like your guitar, thats all there is to it. Yeah sure save up for a more expensive instrument but don't be suprised when because of familiarity with your old guitar. The new one doesn't seem leaps and bounds ahead.
Comfort and familiarity are everything in sounding good.

That said, it's a sorry affair but talent scouts and A&R people do look at your gear to assess your level of commitment. They don't look for super high end stuff, they look for quality functional gear. Reliable gear being used by a band that cant have their gear let them down.
Carl Veheyen uses MIM standards and European copies. You'll never see anyone telling him he sounds bad.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:38 pm
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I have a couple of pick guards...

1) A SSH MIM white pg
2) A SSS MIA white pg

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:33 pm
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well why not just put down a few hundred on an Epiphone semi-hollow. Do some gigs with that, save up the money and use it to upgrade the Squire? Now, I'm no expert on neck switching and pickups, but from what it sounds like you'd spend alot of money on upgrading rather than buying a guitar you really want. From people that I know they love the tone on the Epiphone semi-hollow. But that's what I would do, invest in a new guitar. Play some gigs with it, put the money away to buy the upgrades for your Squire.


It is still a Squier, as Niki points out Pro level gear is a must if you are serious, it is difficult enough to make it in the entertainment business and as it is in many other avenues, First Impressions do matter greatly.
You eventually have to be able to walk the talk...Equipment which is passable for home/band rehearsal does not work at the pro level where you are expected to perform at a high standard.

Anyway this project is going to be fun for all of us involved.... Care to join in :?: 8)

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:41 pm
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texasguitarslinger wrote:
53magnatone wrote:
Importantly I also suggest that any parts that you receive be sent to a P.O. Box, not an actual street address.
Since this is a public forum, it is best to keep the Gremlins and Trolls out..


I think my parents still have a P.O. Box which they used for their business way back when. But I'm not 100% sure they still have it or not. I'll check with them.

That is important: we all know there is a small but very nasty element out there in cyberspace. But TGS is a very smart young woman and it's easy to keep this thing friendly and safe with just a little intelligence.

TGS, it sounds like you get on well with your parents so keeping them up to speed from the start is half the job done. After that, a PO box, someone's work address - something like that. Perhaps we could even go via Brad? Easy.


Well, they don't have one anymore. They got rid of it during the unemployment year. That's not too big of a problem though, because some people in my extended family own a frame shop and things could be sent there safely.

By the way, my parents are thrilled about the idea too. :D I'm really lucky to have parents who will support me in every way they can. Especially when it's something that a lot of parents would scoff at, like wanting to be a professional musician.
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And Ceri, I think I would be interested in hearing more about those pickups. The current pickups in my MIM are dull and awful, so a replacement would be wonderful!

OK, well it is a set of the single coil pickups they put in American Standard Strats. Some like them and some don't: personally I like 'em: I've never found a reason to swap out the stock pups in any Fender guitar - but you need to be absolutely free to express your own preference here. No pressure.

The story behind this set is that when I was doing one of my build threads out of the blue Forum user Gratz sent them to me so's I could maybe use them in a future build project. Just like that - can you think of anything nicer? We don't see him round here much at the moment because he's working overtime on the restaurant he set up about a year ago in Tuscon - Cafe Tremolo. However, he is just one of the very nicest and most generous spirited people on this Forum - and probably on the rest of the planet too! A stand up guy.

I'm quite busy myself and haven't got around to building a guitar around those pickups yet. Eventually I will - but frankly this seems like a much more deserving purpose for the pups and will get them making music sooner (and better!). I emailed Gratz before posting on this thread and he's very happy with the arrangement if you're interested, TGS.

So be very clear: any credit on this pickup set belongs absolutely to Gratz, not to me. And that means I'm also keen to play my part in any other aspects of this project too!

This is the sort of thing that takes the sometimes silly world of forums to a higher level - right people? :D

Later - C


That's cool, I'll definitely think about it. :) I'm usually more into overwound, Texas Special kinds of pickups but lately I've been playing this Highway One and I'm really digging the more vintage like clean tones which Strats can offer too. There's an American Standard at the shop, so I'll plug it in and see how I like it. I haven't played one for years.

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well why not just put down a few hundred on an Epiphone semi-hollow. Do some gigs with that, save up the money and use it to upgrade the Squire? Now, I'm no expert on neck switching and pickups, but from what it sounds like you'd spend alot of money on upgrading rather than buying a guitar you really want. From people that I know they love the tone on the Epiphone semi-hollow. But that's what I would do, invest in a new guitar. Play some gigs with it, put the money away to buy the upgrades for your Squire.


Well, the hollowbody is more of an eventual need and the Strat is something which needs more immediate attention. I won't really need a jazz guitar until after I start school (college) next fall, and my birthday is in the summer. Maybe I can save up for a few more months and maybe for my birthday my parents can pitch in some too and I can get something a little better. Or maybe I'll end up liking a cheaper guitar better, who knows? :) But anyway, I think I'd just rather take my time, play a ton of guitars and save up some more before I rush into anything there.

As far as the Squier goes, I've really upgraded everything I can. I can't change the bridge or the block because it's an affinity and it has a thinner body than a Squier Standard or a Fender. And trust me, the bridge/block has caused me a lot of trouble from broken strings to stripped whammy bars. I'm really lucky that I was able to find a new block for it for free from a guy who liked taking Bullets apart. Squier Bullets, that is. lol I've had to constantly had to have work done on it to keep it in top playing condition. The electronics and input jack were crappy so I completely gutted it and started fresh with Texas Specials and all new wiring, pots, and jack.

All in all I've probably spent about $400-$450 in upgrades already on the guitar not counting it's original cost of $100. But I couldn't have bought a $500 guitar instead because that money was spread out over seven or eight years, so it's been worth it so far.

So really, I'm just tired of fixing problems on it. Every time I think I have everything licked, something else comes up. Just a couple of weeks ago my b strings kept breaking on me. Now, I know that has more to do with the fact that the heavier strings left a rough groove on the saddle, but still.

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Tex

Whilst I do agree with the sentiment that good gear eventualy becomes a must.
Don't worry about it. You like your guitar, thats all there is to it. Yeah sure save up for a more expensive instrument but don't be suprised when because of familiarity with your old guitar. The new one doesn't seem leaps and bounds ahead.
Comfort and familiarity are everything in sounding good.


That's true. I'm a little nervous about switching from the Squier honestly. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make the adjustment completely to another guitar. I think that whichever guitar gets refretted first will be the one I'm most comfortable playing though.

Although I've been comparing the Squier and Highway One constantly and I really do notice the quality differences. The Highway One is a more resonate, solidly built guitar than the Squier. I'm not completely sold that the thinner finish is what's making the Highway One more resonate though. I think it's more to do with the thicker body and solid steel block. Both of which are things I can never add to my Squier unfortunately.
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That said, it's a sorry affair but talent scouts and A&R people do look at your gear to assess your level of commitment. They don't look for super high end stuff, they look for quality functional gear. Reliable gear being used by a band that cant have their gear let them down.
Carl Veheyen uses MIM standards and European copies. You'll never see anyone telling him he sounds bad.


Jeff Healey played a Squier, and he sounded pretty darn good. The guitarist for Los Lonely Boys (who's name escapes me) plays a guitar he assembled from MIM parts I think. I'm still a firm believer in the player over what's being played. How does the saying go? If SRV had a First Act... ;) So really, I don't care what is or is not written on the headstock. A good guitar is a good guitar. And my Squier is a good guitar, I just think there could be better. For instance, I played an SRV Strat, which has the same pickups that are in my Squier, and the SRV sounded noticeably better.

And I actually do like the fact that most people see my purple Squier before I play and get the wrong impression. They read the headstock and see that it's purple and they go ahead and judge what they think it'll sound like. It's like having a NASCAR engine in an old Camry. :lol:

Anyway, that's the end of my rant of my love/hate relationship with my guitar. :P

And in the event of a new main axe and a refret for my MIM, I think I'd do what I've always wanted to use my Squier for. String it up with 12-56s and play in Eb or D Standard. :D I had it like that for about six months, but as I started playing out more often I realized 99% of people play in standard and I just couldn't do a thing with those strings in standard.

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:42 am
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By the way, my parents are thrilled about the idea too. :D

Neat! 8) Then if there's anyone out there with the wrong ideas in their head they'll be giving up round about now. So the rest of us can get down to having some good clean fun with this thing.

TGS, what you need to do now is spend the rest of this thread sorting out your ideal guitar. What is right for you, not what any of the rest of us think you should go for. When you've settled on some specs - well then I suspect things might sort themselves out for you in a happy sort of way.

Right guys? :D

We're all watching with interest.

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What's going on (sorry I read the first few replies about getting pro gear and got bored)
Are we getting TGS a guitar together?

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What's going on (sorry I read the first few replies about getting pro gear and got bored)
Are we getting TGS a guitar together?


That's the gist I'm getting niki...Seems pretty cool. If funds would allow I'd certainly kick in. Maybe I can pick up some extra strings or something. Either way, whether I'm able to help or not, I'm looking forward to seeing where this might go. And seeing the finished product of course.

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As far as the Squier goes, I've really upgraded everything I can.


TGS - That one statement right there makes me think that although the Squier has sentimental value, and you would clearly love to keep on with it, it has reached the point where it is no longer suited to your level of playing. If you feel there are aspects that you need to change to be able to keep up with your music (and a dependable "tool" is going to make any job easier) and are unable to do so, that to me is the blaring sign that it is time to move on to something that is going to allow you to reach your full potential. I played my Aria LP copy for a lot of years, and when I got to the point that I had simply beaten it up so much that there was no return, I knew I had to do get something else, because even a small thing causing issues with a guitar can really throw off an entire performance.
I'd say that now that it sounds like you're gonna be picking up the Hwy1 after all that you should swap the electronics from the Squier to whatever you plan on using as your #1 and then if it all comes together with the Fender Lounge-O-caster, you'll have 2 capable guitars. And you can then save up for a CS Strat, or whatever guitar you like.
Professional equipment is a must these days. You have to do one step better than everyone else if you plan on being noticed, the music buisness is cut-throat, and these days, talent isn't all you need to make it.
:shock: Holy crap! Long post (for me, I'm usually a man of few words...lol) hth

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If a guitar you've had for years doesn't have any sentimental value, you shouldn't have kept it. :idea: :lol:

Tim, funds are low here too mate. All I'm going to do is what I can. Maybe a nut, cos I don't think Becky will like my choice in pickups, let alone the ones I have lying around (can you say squealing hi-output microphonic screechy loss of hearing).
We'll see what needs arise.

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Neat! Then if there's anyone out there with the wrong ideas in their head they'll be giving up round about now. So the rest of us can get down to having some good clean fun with this thing.

I was thinking of a B.C. Rich Warlock style :wink: :lol:

TGS...
Seriously to the point at hand, an aftermarket neck and body, good parts, but most importantly care and patience in the assembly and set-up, will yield a strat which will be on equal footing to the top of the line Deluxe's if not surpass it.

OK so now the ball is in your corner to decide the parameters..

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