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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:55 am
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Mmm me no likey, good ole spanky twang does it for me, to many guitarists going down the unatural a la Clapton strat route, I just switch off whenever i hear that whiny waily processed lead guitar sound, yep I'm stuck way back hear in the dark ages and happy :)


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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:38 am
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nikininja wrote:
Didn't you guys pay attention?
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*Dunno what I'm gonna do with you lot.*

It's computer programable. So if you only want 3 sounds out of the thing, you put them right next to each other. Same as you would a multi effects unit.

I've been wondering why very unusually I posted a negative opinion on this guitar - especially as after all I haven't even tried it yet. I almost always keep negative views to myself: why not this time?

This thing has got my goat and I think the reason is what you've hinted at here, Nick.

Amongst my truckload of unnecessary FX accessories I have a Boss GT-3 multi-effects unit, and also an ME-50. The GT-3 is fiddly but I can cope with it OK and tweak the patches endlessly. On the ME-50 you can also save sounds - but once you've done so there is no way to interrogate the unit to find out how you got there. I have a couple of patches on it I did ages ago and like - and no way to recreate them with proper quality boxes because I can't remember how I programmed the settings.

Far as I can see it would be the same with this guitar. After vast wasted hours of tinkering you might find you liked the noise of coil three in parallel with six and both of those in series with one and two (for example). That's the sort of nuttiness the switching is there to facilitate. You'd save that sound to one of the switching positions - and then woe betide you if you ever forget what you did and overwrite it, because there is no way to recover it. Unless you diligently write everything down in a notebook - and how many of us live our lives that way?

This product smacks of something put together by designers carried away with the mathematical possibilities but forgetting how an instrument is used in real life.

And if I try one and find I love it after all I will be only to ready to eat my words in public! :D

And anyway: strokes for folks - right?

Cheers - C

PS: of course by contrast crystal frets are completely sensible and necessary. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:56 am
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I suppose much like modern day effects units, you'd save a copy of the written program to your pc.
On that note, I recently had my yearly clean out on the 'puter and found a load of line6 sounds I haven't used since 2004. I haven't had the unit since 2007. Yet I still didn't want to delete them. Off to data CD they went. Clear labeling and years later I could recall exactly what they were.

It's gonna be just like the Variax or Gdec or Mustang. In that editing and being able to back up on computer will be a must to get the best out the thing.

Imagine being able to have a humbucker neck pickup for the low E.
A tele bridge for the A.
A P90 middle for the D
And whatever combination you want for the other strings. Then hitting a open Emaj with full gusto.
That gets me pretty intruiged. If only for the fun aspect of it. I've plenty of guitars that do the old run of the mill sounds. I don't need more of them, or inbuilt processors, when I can have one of them at my feet.

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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:12 am
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nikininja wrote:
Imagine being able to have a humbucker neck pickup for the low E.
A tele bridge for the A.
A P90 middle for the D

It does that, does it? You've obviously looked that the other YouTube instalments. I admit, I'd had enough by the end of the first one.

A couple of years ago it was one of the hi-tech Les Pauls that everyone dislikes so much that first had the capability to offer seperate output for each string - if I remember right (though I don't remember the model name). Effectively, individual pickups for each string -this MusicMan has that as well, has it?

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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:22 pm
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Looking at the website they state the sound is never digitized or modelled. So I must be wrong.
It is however programable through the PC
http://gamechanger.music-man.com/app

EB are claiming on that site 250,000 combinations on the HSH guitar, with piezo saddles.
Part 2 is far better. With Leominster's finest showing off exactly how good he is at 3:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlu84MzEwo

I really can't see a downside, myself. Never having to have to use a neck pickup ever again to change my sound can only be a good thing.

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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:44 am
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babalooga wrote:
Looks too complicated for my poor old brain to process. I think Iwould rather just play my guitar :?


I agree with the latter part of that statement lol
If theres 8,500,000 tones, surely that's going to take for ever to find the options you like. To be honest I'd rather be playing my guitar than cycling through a ridiculous amount of options.
I buy my guitars for what they are as that it the tone I am after from that instrument.
I would say it would be a good idea but I think the amount of sounds is ridiculous.
I think to sum it up in one word would be 'interesting' but its not for me.
Hope the artists that use them have a lot of money for studio time to get the sound out of them they want lol


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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:54 am
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Here's another interesting clip I've found from NAMM about this thing. Shows the guy actually changing things via USB and whatever software or online interface, looks pretty simple, and far as I can tell it does appear that whatever pickup setting you want could be assigned string by string.
I may have to put my foot in my mouth on this guitar. I find myself intrigued by it, and now the more I research it, I'm liking it. I think it could really be a nice tool to have in my arsenal. So who knows, looks like they'll be available mid-year, and I'm certainly going to play one and see how it is.

Anyway...here's that video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNGod4K77fg

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Post subject: Re: Step forward in guitar technology?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:57 am
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Thank you for posting. interesting.

So, do you need your computer on to tell you which combo you are on and how to get from tone 1...

...to tone 132,573...

and was it tone 1,1645,418 that sounded really good last night...

...or was it 2,479,156...

or 45,844?

In this opinion, the L6 Variax and Fender VG Strat are interesting and made their marks...

...and this one likely will, too.

But which makes one wonder tho, will the Tele/Strat/LP/SG/335...

...or Game Changer be more numerous on stages in 10 years?


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