I also agree. Not because I know anything about the Orange or am endorsing it, but there's no finality to getting an amp. If down the road you find a need/want for another sound/style then you can get another amp and either sell the Orange or keep it. That's what many of us have done through the years.

BTW, digital reverb/delay pedals go for as little as $50. I have a cheap Behringer DR400 ($50) as well as one of the more expensive Boss. The Behr. sounds just fine....don't know if it will last as long, but sounds good!

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The quintessential sound of 60/70's R&R:
Fender Tube Amps
Gibson Guitars

Doesn't matter what the amp sounds like.

He is using a muff at full bore, and ds-2 at 0 but seems like he'd like that at full bore as well. Plus a wah.

That is a lot of distortion before even hitting the amp!

Having an amp add even more, well maybe nobody would notice.

If you like the distortion from your pedals then maybe a clean amp with more headroom is another way to go.

Trying out amps with your pedals is the only way to go. Try the wah at the beginning of the pedal chain.

the point is i cant get overdrive with those 2 pedals because of the settings i have to keep them at, and i LOOOOOOVE the gain on the orange....

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Favorite bands:

Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

theyre solid state, im lookin for tubes

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Favorite bands:

Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

Well I hope you find what you're looking for. A / B comparisons in the store at the same time is the best way.

Sound is one sense our brain doesn't remember very well, as opposed to say smell. Listening to one amp one day and another a week or two later and saying one sounds better or worse isn't very reliable.

I recently picked up a small valve amp and a BD-2, thought I was in heaven. Then built a muff clone and a TS-808 clone, the BD-2 was harsh in comparison. I'm now modding the BD-2 and test each step and hear the difference. So I originally thought the BD-2 was the best thing since sliced bread, even Gilmour uses one, until I directly compared to something I liked more.

The HRD series amps do what they do due to poor design and cheap components. I never abused mine and had a ton of problems with it. I also know many others who have too. The Blues Jrs. are biased really hot from the factory. The HRDlx usually has the 5 watt power resistors and cold solder joints from heating and cooling giving problems eventually. I've been handling and gigging my amps the same way for over 40 years and the HRDlx was the first one to give me problems. The boards in these things are thin, fragile and single sided. There lies many of the problems. Hopefully the HRD III series will be better. Just a little info for you. The limited edition amps you bought are just a speaker and cosmetic changes and nothing more. The thin boards and cheap components are the same as any other HRD series amp.

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opened for SuperBig last night at Subterranean and used their bass players amp
http://acousticamplification.com/produc ... oduct=B450
went directly into the board the sound man is a friend so I shook the rafters Bro, this amp kicks. Marshall JCM 800 or 900 or Mesa Dual or Triple rectifier through Marshall 4/12 cab, Orange 4/12 cab works too. keep your eyes and ears open and you will find one or all of those, and, be able to afford them.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

I find it very interesting that bassists, who generaly are more focused on clarity and obtaining a well balanced sound. Whilst usually being a damn sight more educated in the importance of certain frequencies. Are nowhere near as wrapped up in valves as guitarists. Do they just hear differently to guitarists?
Is it that you need a load more power for a bass to keep up with a guitar? So valve powersections become far too expensive to be a viable option for bassists.

You're always up to something eh Rollie?

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Floyd, you answered your own question! If you love the Tiny Terror, by all means, get it!
Having something that you love and works for you is all you need. Not what everyone else wants you to have. As for Reverb, I just built a Bulid Your Own Clone Reverb Pedal and it's great. Not spring reverb, but I only use a small amount of reverb.


If you get the TT, I would suggest an Orange cab for it. The cabinets for these lunchbox heads are voiced for the amp. My Rebel 20 sounds way better through an Egnater cabinet than it does through a Marshall, Vox etc. I tries a lot of cabs and came home with the Egnater. By the way, I was looking at the Tiny Terror but came home with the Rebel 20.

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I've pretty much decided on the TT, however I'll be getting the combo rather than head + cab because thats all I really need at the moment and all I can afford . Even so, the TT combo is essentially just a head build into the speaker, not much difference from head + cab from what I've heard, and if I REALLY need more volume it's able to be hooked up to 2 additional speakers. I need to sell my peavey to be able to afford it, so I'll probably have it within the next 2 weeks.

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Favorite bands:

Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

Niki, the crowd liked us. It felt good to play with Frankie and Rob. I hope that I was on the right track about amps for Floyd. Just what you said is true Niki. Bass guitar amps can't compete in the mix without help from the sound man. The pro rigs on top of you and the floor toms and kick below you overwhelms the bass without the PA boost. Guitarists know what they want but most times it's more expensive or appears to be so they buy a twin or other combo that sound great but in the big room the heat has to go way up and the little rigs won't do that.

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

SBLS
As you know, it all comes down to the way we hear. Human ears are attuned to mid frequencies. So they always dominate all things being set equal. Thats what makes me wonder. Cos let's face it rock n roll without bass sounds terrible, the Door's proved that. So what are guitarists missing besides the lack of low end that guitar can't deliver?

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You, Niki, won't miss a thing, it's the other guitarists some of whom are skittish about how loud they really have to be for live shows. For all live shows but for rock it is really important. The sound man will lower your volume if you get too loud, just talk to him during sound check. Is that what Floyd should hear Niki instead of how good the amp sounds in a room that only seats 10 or 20 people?

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you can save the world with your guitar one love song at a time it's just better, more fun, easier with a fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar.

why not just get a tube pedal?

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riley

FSJB
I can't recall ever seeing Hendrix go into a bassamp, though I won't naysay it, he'd have tried anything.
The one thing about plexi's, infact all Marshall valve guitar amps to a certain extent. Is that when using them at volume the eq controls become little more than decoration. .
It's the one thing I love most about em!

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