sorry for my bad english but i think you got my point.

please check my fender out. is this real fender or not? because when i enter the serial number at guitardate, it called made from corona, 94.

thanks

i can identified the bridge. it is real fender. but i can identified other. would you mind all of you help me ? thanks









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Should be a 1993 USA Fender. At least, I don't see any obvious clues pointing to a fake. It's possible that it's a "parts" guitar, but probably impossible to tell from photos alone.

And, your English is fine.

Nothing jumps out as looking fake.
Its a Joe Strummer model, right?

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It's not a Strummer, though the color is correct and it has wear. Strummer guitars weren't produced as early as '93, I don't believe, and at any rate they have a 3-barrel bridge, not a modern 6-saddle.

Why cover the serial number ? There is no way anyone can help identify, especially the Fender mods like Mike Eldred if the serial number is hidden and the guitars lineage cannot be traced.
I fail to see why so many people do that when asking for info.
I have posted my serial numbers when posting photo's so ?

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It's possible, though improbable, that scammers can report the guitar as stolen and attempt to recover a guitar that's not theirs if they have the full serial #. The N3 here is enough to date it at least.

Black trussrod surround on a 22fret marked as American neck. Also the 12th fret dots are too far apart. Looks like a mightymite neck to me.
Also it has funny saddles. They don't look like Squier saddles but do look similar to the far eastern guitar saddles.

Not authentic, sorry to say. Take the neck off and post a picture of the heel and the pocket floor. We'll tell more from them. Atleast the body may be authentic.

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+1 Seems like a very close to real partsocaster.

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Didn't think so.

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That's just silly paranoia !!! To prove that a guitar is fraudulently stolen ( Ha HA ) is rather difficult, since there is a paper trail to follow from a legitimately obtained instrument, I actually would suspect the owner covering up the Serial # has something to hide ?
If it does escalate to a Police inquiry, just having the serial number is not going to be enough to prove ownership.
Let's see, If I can remember the serial# off of that 2006 Audi Avant RS4, I'm sure I can claim it as my own.

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I think the OP has done right by not showing the serial no' to all the world. The counterfeiters can then see a potentially legitimate serial no' and copy it. The OP didn't know the serial was counterfeit when he posted the picture.

A always try not to give too much away when assessing a guitar on this site. The number of times I've seen fake guitars questioned here and the backgrounds are very very similar. Led me to believe some use this site to see if they can fool us. Fool us lot-fool most, sell the fake in relative safety.
A reason why I won't partake in that 'How to spot a fake' thread on the Strat forum. I know the author of that thread and he's a standup guy. You can't account for who is reading it and their intentions though.

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I Think I got your drift, ( sort of reverse engineering ) OK, is it me or is there a discrepancy between the hardware and the back of the headstock
On the exposed body that is wood but not alder or ash at least not in that tone.

Perhaps it is not even a Fender but a Nash

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No.

In most cases with an instrument potentially this old ('93) there is no such paper trail, and if any exists it will most likely be fragmentary and incomplete. I "legitimately obtained" at least 4 instruments last year, and legitimately sold 3 of those, and haven't a scrap of paper to show for any of those transfers.

You analogy to autos is invalid. Autos require an official state-sanctioned title in order for their ownership to be properly transferred (and even then people often attempt to transfer them without titles). There's no such requirement for guitars.

I have legitimately reported stolen guitars both to the police and insurers (and been reimbursed by the latter), and at no point did any require a receipt or other purported document of title to prove my ownership. What did they require? A serial number, and a description or (preferably) a photo.

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Not that they reverse engineer, more that they come here and to other websites to pick our brains. Or find out what we usually look for, then make sure that aspect of the guitar is right.
As for serial no's we laymen cant tell much aside from country of origin and year. However Fender have a database of all FMIC era serial no's (atleast). People can always contact them to check a serial no' is valid. And most know that if it reads something like SQ22ZZZ21KD--4/SSS then that's not right and the jig will soon be up. So what better way round that then to hop over to some internet site, look at pictures of guitars till you find a serial no' you like.

I don't mind posting pictures of my guitars, but do draw the line at making certain information available. The barcode stickers on the inside of MIM's and AM DLX's for one. No one here needs to know that stuff, it won't tell us anything. But could aid some con artist in ripping off some innocent kid.

So I do things like this.

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Brian K. You misunderstood my point.

(1) Fraudulently stolen meaning that the claim itself is fraudulent, I am reporting that the guitar in question is stolen, however it does not belong to me or for that matter to any one I know, so it comes down to credibility, but I have none since I am lying about the guitar being stolen thus obfuscating the truth because? (pick any purpose ) or in layman's terms pulling the wool over the eyes.

(2) My analogy over auto's is valid, a stretch I'll admit, but it was meant to emphasize a point, not to be taken literally. I'm well aware of the documentation required for vehicles.
As far as the police retrieving stolen items of any kind, I have very little faith in that, not so much because of incompetence in the system but rather that when an instrument is stolen, it always has been one of the most difficult items to track down, thus why a paper trail is crucial.
I have paperwork for all my instruments proving where and when and from whom they were purchased.
If I'm about to buy a nice strat, the seller had better have legit paperwork or I will pass, because when I spend $1000 and upwards or even $500 I want to know for sure where that instrument came from and I will inquire about it before closing the sale.
For Instance, I know exactly where my 2001 CS strat came from and who owned it before me.

I'm not so wet behind the ears, but well aware that Instruments are a nightmare for law enforcement, in the case of Fenders, the wonderful design that Leo and his crew gave us has made it possible for many to change a part here and there and voila !! An Ugly duckling is now a rare Golden Eagle.
This is also a reason why I despise relicing outfits outside of Fender such as Nash, because it is basic Fraud.

As far as the particular instrument being what it is, I doubt it, I'm not going to voice the basis of my suspicions, but as a woodworker who renovates, remodels and repairs 1800 Victorians and Colonials, I see enough aged hardware and wood to suspect when something is off. In addition to being a guitarist who has also owned a couple of vintage pieces.
I do not claim to say that I could spot all fakes, for some are very well done but others ?
The Blues Train left the station 3 hours ago. Ciao !!

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