Hey guys, can you help me identiry the chord that Phil plays after the A at 2:50 in the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLp9NQd_uNQ

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I can't tell. This video might help you out some http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km0sn9mDejg

Some inversion of Emaj7 at the 4th fret.

Time to get the jazz books out and look at passing chords, thats all it is.

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Thanks for the suggestions guys, after messing around with it for a while I like putting a C in there and sliding up to D before hitting E7#9.

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Any suggestion for a good book on that one Niki? Since I bought my first Bass guitar this summer, I'm trying to figure out all the aspects of playing guitar and relearn it correctly this time.
Claude.

Claude sorry mate, good traditional jazz (where those beautifull passing chords originate) seems to be a closely guarded secret. I've played with a few of them guys and getting info out of em is like getting blood from a stone.

Personaly I think you can't go wrong with Hal Leonard's books. As always their a good starter for 10, but you'll get the real meat and potatoes by getting round a few open jazz free for all's.

Best to make sure you're good at Bb before you go. Thats all they ever play in trad jazz, 12bars in Bb.
If you can meet a jazz banjo player, their the guys for passing chords.

It's definitely not C, if you play the low 5th, root and then flattened 5th only from the Amaj, that appears to be half of whats going on for that one chord. It's in completely the wrong position for a C and it doesn't key right. Emaj7 keys better than anything else I've found, but isn't the whole story theres further embelishment going on with it.

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Whatever he's doing, it's not that. Then again, what he did do didn't exactly work out for him, did it?

Regarding books, this one has a few nice jazzy turn around shapes:

http://www.amazon.com/Improvising-Blues ... 272&sr=8-1

Not a jazz book as such by any means - but then when you're tired of the jazz aspects there's all the other stuff to look at! Not bad at the price.

Also, I've heard this one recommended, though I haven't seen it myself so I'm just passing on the suggestion:

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Jazz-Gu ... =1-3-fkmr0

Cheers - C

I wasn't implying that Phil was playing C, that's what I did.

I'm trying to teach myself how to play by ear so when I watch a video and hear a lick I like I'll try to figure it out.

I played Emaj7 like Niki suggested but I didn't like the way it sounded. The song goes to E in the mext measure so the walk up A-C-D leading into E kinda works. I know that C does not fit the key but like I said I think it sounds good... which IMHO is more important then being technically correct.

So with that in mind, what might YOU play for that lick?



[Edit] I just wanted to add that I realized C is the first chord in the main progression.

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No, no: I quite understand. I was trying to suggest that whatever he did didn't work, so you'd want to try something different.

Which you did: E7#9 is as good a way to go as anything.


Just like you, I'd spend happy hours messing around with all the different voicings of E I could come up with. So. Try taking that sharp ninth down a semitone to F#. Less Hendrixy - more jazzy, perhaps?

e - x
B - 7
G - 7
D - 6
A - 7
E - 0

Then you could try strumming that whole chord up and down a semitone. Funky - or just yukky?

Or...

Cheers - C

Oh, another thing:

No, I sort of agree.

However, perhaps it depends on the voicing. I like maj7 chords so much it is almost a bad habit with me. So like you and Nick I tried an Emaj7 and didn't quite care for it. But then I tried E6 in this rootless position:

e - 9
B - 9
G - 9
D - 9
A - x
E - x

And then I tried hammering on to Eb on the top e string which gives an Emaj7 shape, like this:

e - 11
B - 9
G - 9
D - 9
A - x
E - x

Odd, almost slightly dissonant in the context of this number - and therefore amusingly jazzy? Or not?

Oh, and that Eb is to be found in the minor pentatonic scale of C, and so with some ingenuity might be used to pass you from E on to the C chord that opens the next cycle. Gotta be some licks to be found in amongst that possibility...

Cheers - C

Well like I said it's a inversion of Emaj7, not a straight Maj7. Notably the 3rd is sharpened

Ex
A 7th fret
D 7th fret
G 4th fret
B 4th fret
e XXXXX

How would I play it? Not like that. Sounded a mess.

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What I've found through hearing plenty of bands play that song, and being forced to play it myself is that it's very easy to get wrong. People overplay it and it just sounds tacky and messy
It's a folk ballad that Hendrix attributed to someone called Roberts. I'm pretty sure he'd heard it off someone called Roberts who played it as a deadpan blues number. No embelishments.
Even Hendrix couldn't play it right live and the thing ran away with him on more than one occasion for entirely those reasons. Most notably the Lulu show version where he just pulled the plug in the middle of it after making a right eff up of it.
The Monterey version is about as far as you can go without it sounding too bad.

Myself I avoid it, it sounds like a funeral dirge.

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Niki, Hendrix didn't like playing Hey Joe either.

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It aint that, I just think when covering Hendrix you have to do it differently. And that song is a desert bowl kind of sound to it. Sounds better for being empty, more haunting, then that crashing E pentatonic riff with the massive bass end.
I really think thats where the beauty of Hendrix's recording of it lies. Anyways you couldn't blame him for getting bored of it. Imagine having to play that and folky lady five nights a week for four years. No wonder he used to smash his gear up.

If you dropped the B string on that previous chord it would Asus2 A,B,E. Though really thats a inverted chord with the 5th (E) being lower pitched than the root note (A). The 2nd (B) replacing the maj or minor 3rd. Without playing the bass line along with PhilX's vid, I can't be sure that it would be keyed to A, but it seems probable.

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