Guitarists are the problem not the solution. Look at Vai, Malmsteen and all them lot. Their just a evolved form of the nonsense 70's boring guitar solo infested garbage that started with the likes of Clapton and Hendrix.
They appeal to a few guitarists, not all of em thankfully. Leave em thinking that everyone wants to hear a meaningless 2 minute wheedley wheedley solo.
Utter tripe that should be edited to the rubbish bin of history. If Tipper Gore would sort that nonsense out, she'd get my absolute backing.

I'd rather leave it up to accountants to write songs than have that again.

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"Live Cream - Volume II" is 'garbage'?



BLASPHEMY!

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

this is interesting....yes i do agree, the endless solo's can be a bit boring from time to time, especially if you do it on every song.

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riley

Yeah absolutely.
Who not on some weird drug would pay money to hear a 16 minute drum solo, ala TOAD. Clapton really needed editing in them days. Probably the reason it took so long for Cream to reform. Both Baker and Bruce tried several times. Clapton always bemoaned how embarrasing he found those songs. Don't get me wrong, Cream recorded some good stuff (some utter tripe too), but live they needed someone to pull the plug on em. Far too much smack diminishing their judgment. Their not the only ones, Hendrix was bad enough, and led zepplin were boredom incarnate. As Zappa said, if it wasn't for the fact that A&R people back then didn't have a clue, non of em would have got jobs.

Y'know I can't play stairway to heaven, why? I've never tried, infact I've never heard the song all the way through, except for the Rolf Harris version. I've tried several times to listen to it and had to turn it off before I destroyed my stereo. That stuff is pompous self absorbed navel gazing turd juice. The late 60's through to the 70's took rock and roll and turned it into music you can't dance to.

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It seems like the guitar solo is non existant these days. I am not looking for 5 minutes of aimless wanking, but a few bars of some well placed notes would be nice.

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the ramones, sex pistols, the clash came out in the 70's...i'm pretty sure i dance to that...well, if headbanging is a form of dance anyway

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riley

Yeah people lost the ability to serve the song Yoda, they tried to take it over instead.

Riley, all them bands were a rebellion against the navel gazing nonsense that is prog rock, which in turn was a extension of the excesses of the late 60's. Drugs, booze, women to excess, what befell us next? Instruments and instrumentals to excess.

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Sounds good tome!

"pompous self absorbed navel gazing turd juice"

Man, gotta use that line sometime

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Hey, Boy Blue is back!

That's probably why Nevin doesn't want a drummer in his Supergroup!

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MIM Std Tele, MIM HSS Strat, Homemade Mongrel Tele, Blues Jr, Champ600, coupla pedals...sweeeet!

Understandable, Baker was and still is a fantastic drummer, a very jaded character with a jaundiced view of the world (his autobiography is a work of art, read it). But a fantastic drummer, equally on a par with Clapton for musicianship, as is Bruce.

Look at the likes of Moon though who took drumming to a different level by accenting the vocal lines. Served the song like no other, thats a mark of genius.

Ok it may be mad professor type genius, but it's genius non the less.

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Im at a loss for words. I agree that rock has evolved into something undesirable to me on the most part. However Cream, Hendrix, Led Zep, The Who and the likes recorded great music however live they weren,t always the best but they had to put on a show which is what people paid for. I tend to like bands that play just their music without all the showman ship.

I'd agree with you Tbaz aside from zep, I just can't see the appeal, validity or contribution from that band into modern music of that band at all.. They all just needed some severe editing.

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agreed. most of our band's solos are just about 2 to 4 measures and usually replace the bridge part of the song, unless it is absolutely necessary. solos have to be thought out and appropriate for that song, you cant just go off the deep end every time and expect your crowd to stay entertained.

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Guitars: American Standard Strat, American Vintage 52 Tele, Gretsch Power Jet

Amps: Frontman 212R, Hot Rod DeVille 212 w/ Vintage 30's, AC30 w/ Greenbacks

Pedals: Boss Tuner, XOTiC AC-Booster, MXR Phase 90, Line 6 DL4

I don,t think they contrubited to modern music they copyed most of their music but I like about half of what they did. Stairway was just a song they played on the radio. I don,t like most of what was played on the radio.