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Post subject: building my practice room.
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:02 pm
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im building my practice room. its 20sq yrs of floor space.
its not big as you can see but its mine and it will do for now.
ok so this is in my condo and i share a wall that needs to be sound proofed.
so how do i do it guys? not looking to break the bank but to sound proof the hell out of it.

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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:17 pm
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egg boxes... and ull get buff doing it... lol or you can use carpet, anything that will absorb some of the sound... you need to see how much reverb you want to retain in the room as well if you are looking at perhaps doing some recording... also remember that its your doors and windows that pose the biggest problem... other methods for the walls can be hanging blankets, carpets, rugs, fiber board... there is also a foam that is fairly cheap - convulated egg crate foam - i use carpets and i works pretty well...

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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:28 pm
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thank you for stepping out on my post and welcome aboard.
ok i need to really deaden the sound on that wall. seriously.
what works best and how do you hang it. i have two windows to deal with as well. any advice for them?
any links you know of that can help?
i'll do some recording but not a lot of demand on high quality at this
point. i'll be using 20 Watt amps at best maybe on like 4 or so.

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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:51 pm
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ok on the wall you are sharing mabe go for a double layer... blankets dont deaden much sound, heavy curtains do quite well so have a look for the foam, put a layer of that down, it isnt that heavy so you could just glue it on the wall but its density will dampen the sound... then hang a heavy curtain over that on a rail... the heavier the stuff you put on the walls the better it will deaden the vibrations and sound. on the other walls you could use blankets. the easiest way to sound proof the door would be to use a foam tape on the door frame (where the door sits in the frame) this basically seals the door, works very well...

there is an expensive way to sort out the windows and thats by building another wondow infront of your current window( so there is a air gap inbetween... look at - http://www.soundproofing101.com/soundproofing_7.htm
http://www.soundproofing101.com/soundproofing_5.htm

the cheapest way would just to hang a heavy curtain over the window as it is not vital to stop the sound passing throught it in your case...

hope this helps...


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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:56 pm
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i know a guy that has tons of old theater curtins, the heavy stuff. maybe i should give him a call?

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If you have people living above or below you you will need to deaden the sound transfer there too.You don't want people below you banging on their ceiling ruining your recording session 2 in the morning.

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guitslinger wrote:
You don't want people below you banging on their ceiling ruining your recording session 2 in the morning.


Especially after WCJ buys that ten-piece Tama drumset and all those cymbals......

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im in a condo so there is nobody above or below, just next door.
like i said, i wont be playing to loud maybe 5watts out of a couple 20Watt amps. just really dont want to do to much advertising that there is gear in this condo ya know.

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Retroverbial wrote:
guitslinger wrote:
You don't want people below you banging on their ceiling ruining your recording session 2 in the morning.


Especially after WCJ buys that ten-piece Tama drumset and all those cymbals......

:mrgreen:

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nope. the g.friend has put her foot down on that one. :cry:

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:21 am
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You can try these ideas for use in Home Theater builds:
http://www.diy-home-theater-design.com/ ... ideas.html
They key is to not present a hard surface for the sound waves to reverberate against. Double wall construction is best but more expensive.

Do a search on sound-proofing walls and or rooms.

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:52 am
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Ok now you're really into my area of expertise.

First off measure the dimensions of the walls. Width times height, I'll get back to you with a list of quantities.

You can go for many options with this. The ultimate is the isolation method. If you cover the walls and ceiling with ceiling tiles (Suspended, grid ceiling tiles) that offers some sound proofing, and some sound deadening. Their two entirely different things that share similar aspects. Egg boxes are more sound deadening than sound proofing.

Soundproofing stops the transference of soundwaves from room to room by killing the vibrations of the soundwave. (when you understand this principle, you'll see why bodywood doesn't affect tone).

Sound deadening takes the resonant properties out of a room. Literaly stops the sound bouncing around the room. By absorbing soundwaves and dissipating them across the surface of the wall. It doesn't neccesarily stop soundwave transference from room to room. Though it usually does to some degree by the distortion of the soundwaves caused by absorbing the soundwave.

Really depends how far you want to go and how much you want to spend. Soundproofing of between 30-50db is entirely attainable.

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:17 am
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honestly niki, i want to do this as cheaply and as effectively as possible, but removable due to landlord. i dont own this place.

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way cool jr wrote:
honestly niki, i want to do this as cheaply and as effectively as possible, but removable due to landlord. i dont own this place.


Right get some cheap lath, get some ceiling tiles. Measure the size of the ceiling tiles (600x600mm is usual). Lightly scour the walls with a wire brush, just rough it up a bit. Get it back to the plasterboard/plaster. Fix the lath onto your walls with gripfill or some similar diy adhesive so the lath's measure 600mm center to center. Work from left to right (if right handed), Fix your zero lath (corner of the wall) and measure 600mm, that will be the center of your next lath. Carry on like that across the wall. Fix your ceiling tiles onto the laths with the gripfill too. Try and isolate that wall covering from the floor and the ceiling. Use a draught excluding tape, or better still proper isolation tape.

I suggest giving the lath's glue a couple of days to dry before putting tiles onto it.

You'll still get a good bit of sound transferance through the floor, ceiling and abutting walls. It really is one of them jobs where if your not going to do it all, you may as well not bother. But that's the cheapest to best option I can think off.

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:52 am
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see niki, theres the problem. my g.friend is currently fixing all the walls and repainting. there use tobe big display cases on the walls and ive since had them removed. do anything to these walls will get me hung or strapped. lol

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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:07 am
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Being a 'renter" prevents you from doing many things...Then heavy curtains are your best bet and cheapest alternative since you can always take them down. Be warned, the room will be very "dead" sounding but it will prevent sound transfer.

There are many absorption materials on the market at various price points.

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