anybody know anything about these amps?
they have the grey cloth cover with the red knobs.
i remember hem but dont know if they were worth having.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

"H.O.T."......has one transistor



Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

ok arjay, explain this.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

It's a quote from one of the Fender engineers who designed that amp, as related to Tom Wheeler in his book "Fender Amps: The Soul Of Tone" about how the amp got its name.

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

man i just dont know crap about amps to be honest.
i know a good one when i hear it but what makes them tick im clueless on.
maybe i should get a working knowledge of them at some point.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I know you're aware that there are some very good books on this topic available......

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

yes i know arjay. maybe a man of your experience might give me a couple titles that would be worth my time.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

All of these have a home on my bookshelf......

The Soul of Tone: Celebrating 60 Years of Fender Amps by Tom Wheeler

Fender Amps: The First Fifty Years by John Teagle and John Sprung

The Tube Amp Book - by Pittman Aspen

Guitar Amplifier Handbook - Understanding Tube Amplifiers and Getting Great Sounds by Dave Hunter

A Desktop Reference of Hip Vintage Guitar Amps by Gerald Weber

Amps!: The Other Half of Rock 'N' Roll by Ritchie Fliegler

Fender: The Inside Story by Forrest White

Fender: The Sound Heard 'Round the World by Richard R. Smith

Tube Amp Talk for the Guitarist and Tech by Gerald Weber

HTH

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

thank you arjay.
if there were 2 that were must haves which would you pick?
i'll order them tomorrow or monday.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

For historical reference, the first two on my list get the most use.

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

ok so what about for a working knowledge of whats going on inside that little box my guitar is plugged into?

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Gerry Weber's books are pretty thorough. And Aspen Pittman's is often quoted as "the gospel". They're all worthy IMO.

Arjay

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"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY

thank you arjay

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

A friend of mine has a vintage instrument shop with a red knobed twin in there. It's the best sounding amp in the shop, he refuses to sell it. I strongly agree with him, the thing sounds absolutely amazing. Has Oxford speakers, which he tells me is quite unusual for the time it was made.
When I visit, I don't plug into the array of 66' AC30's, JMP's or JTM's. He has plenty of em, old blackface bassmans too.
Not that theres anything at all wrong with those amps. Three of em are my all time favourites.
Some people make you so jealous, fancy buying a shop, just to keep your collection in.

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No no and no

Seem to think it was 1980. Absolutely not sure though and what I know about Fender amps couldn't back up a mosquito fart.

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No no and no