pro's/con's on this amp? anybody own one?

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

cant ever have to muh stuff nevin.
i play about 4 hrs a day most days.
if im on the computer the guitar is on my lap.
if you remember correctly, im the one that doesnt like marshall.
i just happen to like this, the class5, and the DSL head.
all 3 tones i can dig. old Marshalls i just dont like. i havent played
one but from those ive heard, the plexi is garbage.
thats just me. there has been many of toys i though junk
until i got my hands on them and some time alone.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

the one thing tat always bugged me most about Mrshall was the fact that they have to much stuff. theres gotta be 30 different kinds of 4X12 cabs alone. yrs ago that made me stick with Mesa and Carvin.
both have killer tone, pedal friendly, and as loud as you will ever want/need.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I have one.....love it!

does the amp take to pedals nicely?
at 40 watts how is it at bedroom levels,
hard to control and tone robbing?

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I tried out Pat's Haze and it really has that Marshall roar in a small package and a Les Paul or Strat sounds just amazing through it.

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'65 Strat,65 Mustang,65 Jaguar,4 more Strats,3 vintage Vox guitars,5 Vox amps,'69 Bassman with a '68 2-15 Bassman cab,36 guitars total-15asst'd amps total,2 vintage '60s Hammond organs & a myriad of effects-with a few rare vintage ones.

so how is it at bedroom levels?

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

I wouldn't call it a bedroom amp that's for sure. I like it most with the gain on 6 and the volume on 4-5. You will have to upgrade the factory 2 button footswitch to a 4 switch. I like it so much that I haven't even used a pedal with it yet!

ok but can you get good tone at bedroom levels with this amp?
it will cover practice and gigs fine i know already.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

You'll be far better off with a 50watt head and cab. The difference between 40 and 50 watts is so negligable it's unreal. Yes it is way too much for bedroom playing. You'll never get a good sound in your bedroom without going custom built. A 10watt head into atleast two 7/8watt speakers.

As far as marshalls ever expanding range (something I bemoan too)

Just get a cab with Celestion G12-75's. Get a EL34 based head without reverb or channel switching and no master volume.

Thats all the Marshall sound has ever been and what they do best.

Don't worry about the silly signature series's and modern ammendments to the catalogue. It's a whole lot less complicated than that.

You may want to consider the 100watt TSL and use it's inbuilt power reduction thing. That won't get you the stressed speaker sound which I think is the main part of the cranked valve amp sound.

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No no and no

i guess i could always do a webber attenuater.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

You could mate, and I'm not being negative. I use a powerbreak a hell of a lot.

It just doesn't sound the same. No attenuator does, whether you spend £1000 or £10 on one. They are another misunderstood con of modern times. You do get all the pushed valves sound, you don't get the pushed speaker sound. Now after using mine for well over a year I can tell you, thats the biggest part of that pushed stack sound.

All the talk of 'tone robbing' (sic), is just nonsense perpetuated by people that don't understand that it's not the attenuator causing a difference, but the fact that your not pushing the speaker hard. That's the same whether you use a attenuator or a VVR.

The webber is a good attenuator. Personaly I don't like all the eq controls on it, they will alter the sound of your amp. However it's in no way a bad product, the Mass system is a work of genius.

Why not just sink the dough into building yourself a bedroom amp. You can tailor it to whatever you want that way. 12 watt speaker on a 5 watt amp, power and preamp stages just how you want em. Trust me, if I can do it, anyone can. Since I did, I'll never buy another amp again.

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No no and no

i need a jackof all trades amp right now, one that fills several needs.
i can deal with the attenuator idea right now.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Nevin have you ever heard a 50watt 2x12 amp on full tilt in a box room. It don't matter what it is or who's playing it, it don't sound good. Too much soundpressure in too small a space.

Guys the perfect do it all amp does exist. It's no channel switching million effects thing though. It's just a good sounding single channel amp that you can build effects ontop of.

So simple it's stupid. No stupid reverb or effects loop to kill the sound of your guitar and amp. Just a good honest straightforward sound with no messing and a hand full of pedals infront of it.

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No no and no

niki i seem to agree with you pretty often, and this post is an example of that.

i think the Marshall class5 is an example of this.
some folks arent to crazy about the tone but i like it.
its pretty straight forward amp.

nevin
i use a blues jr tweed in the bedroom with a OCD in front. for my single coil guitars i really like it. its smooth and responds well to everything i do to it. to me, the tone is amazing with my tele's.
i need a good bucker amp and to me the blues jr lacks in that department.
im talking hot buckers too mind you.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."