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okay, let me rephrase.
what do you think of him as a guitar player?


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very good


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Can John Mayer play? Hell yes he can. Im a neophyte player, but an experienced listener, and anyone can tell hes very good. Influences? If anything, he sounds like SRV, in both playing and singing style, and i dont think he'd mind that comparison. Is he the best ever? probably not, but that wasnt the question. Hes one of the top 100 players of all time in any poll you can find, and to say you dont agree just indicates youre trying to act superior, or you just arent paying attention, or that he stole your girlfriend and youre mad at him.


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i agree 100% with the comment above me.

and he is a big SRV nut.

he has SRV tattoo'd on his arm.


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blaze2727 wrote:
i agree 100% with the comment above me.

and he is a big SRV nut.

he has SRV tattoo'd on his arm.


i would get a SRV tattoo if i could


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He's pretty much been an influence on most fender players.


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One word: ORIGINALITY. If that means anything anymore.

How does copying SRV and Jimi licks get to qualify you as one of the greatest 100 players of all time? I have a guy here locally, Mike Holland, who can do the same or better, he is very talented. He can play every lick and stylistic move of all the guitar heroes. It's a skill. It's the ultimate copy band guitar hero situation. And he can improv beautifully as well. But it begs the question: so what?

Has anyone in this thread ever even heard of Kevin Eubanks or Danny Gatton? John Abercrombie? If we're talking actual major brilliant guitar players of the last 20 years who have their own style and created a significant influence, John Mayer comes in maybe 379, if he's lucky.

As an SRV or Jimi Tribute Band guru, I think he's downright terrific!


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Nice post Maruuk! That's what I'm looking for on this forum.


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I have heard of and love Danny Gatton he is "Master of the Telecaster" Problem is he died too soon, and did not become know to most (myself included) until he was gone. I think the big t reason ppl are hung up on John Mayer (including myself) is (with a exception of a few of us) this forum has a young crowd and JM is the 1st pure guitar player that the younger crowd can latch on and relate to. Sure his style is like Jimi's or SRV, but i think he has some originality to him as well. We all as guitar players copy one another to an extent, you can make that argument with jimi and srv, jimi said it himself he liked to emulate Curtis Mayfield. SRV copied Jimi to an extent. It doesn't help matters that John Mayer gets so much attention from the media, heck Rolling Stone just labeled him, Derrick Trucks, and John Frusciante the new guitar gods of the modern era, thigs like this adds fuel to the JM fire our society is influenced so much by the media, I am as much fault as the next...I and think he is a breath of fresh air to today's music. As for being in the top 100 all time? I don't know and who am I to say, heck I bet John Mayer himself wouldn't put himself in that category.


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I agree, John has opened up the blues genre to a whole new generation. I watched Try again the other night and you could tell most of the people (girls) in the room were waiting for You body is a wonderland or whatever his pop hit was. It did not take them long to get into what John was feeding them and they kept wanting more. I dig it and I am teetering on being an old man, okay at least middle-aged.


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As an African-American, I'd like to think that Buddy Guy or Robert Cray are the ones opening up audiences to blues. The idea that White performers are required to "translate" the blues to a mass market should have died out in the 60's when White performers with great integrity like Clapton and Jagger and Johnny Winter embraced and exposed their Black mentors and progenitors to their audience and said, "These are the real dudes, I'm just faking it!"

It's great that all races play the blues, including John Mayer. I just hope a John Mayer is no longer required to "interpret" the blues for the mass market.


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If 100,000 teenage girls, whom the majority would never listen to the blues, fall in love with John Mayer because of his pop music and then in turn are turned on to the blues because of John its a good thing. Regardless of color. End of story.


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yeah i found out about john when i saw him do the live at abbey road thing, he was the best one on the whole thing !!!


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Maruuk wrote:
As an African-American, I'd like to think that Buddy Guy or Robert Cray are the ones opening up audiences to blues. The idea that White performers are required to "translate" the blues to a mass market should have died out in the 60's when White performers with great integrity like Clapton and Jagger and Johnny Winter embraced and exposed their Black mentors and progenitors to their audience and said, "These are the real dudes, I'm just faking it!"

It's great that all races play the blues, including John Mayer. I just hope a John Mayer is no longer required to "interpret" the blues for the mass market.



Your right it should have died out in the 60's but unfortunately it does still happen. In my case was always aware of Buddy Guy and Robert Cray but never really took the time to pay attention when I 1st started playing, but through other players, like Jimmy Page, Clapton, I found out who they were influnenced by and that is how I found Buddy Guy, then through Buddy Guy, i traced back to Muddy Waters , Howlin Wolf, Otis Rush, Junior Wells, and have traced those guys back even further. Its a shame it took me that long to be influnced or introduced to true blues, but I found my way there. I think JM is trying to do that, his method appeals to some but not all. He has been trying to reach out and play with ppl like Buddy Guy. If you get a chance check out PBS's sound-stage series, there is a set where Buddy and John play together in front of a younger crowd, I bet some of those in the crowd got their 1st baptism in real blues from the master BG, or became fans after that show...


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Yeah, I saw that and JM rightly continues the tradition of bringing the actual roots guys forward to the broader audience which is very laudable.


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