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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:40 am
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That old lady is blowing her head off to beat the band and I am thinking about our mate on Java and that we haven't heard anything from him in a long time. :? Have I missed something? :?: Perhaps Brad can try to reach him privately and ascertain his situation. :idea:

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Doc the people in that region are going through hell lately, earthquakes. tsunami and Merapi seemingly getting bigger and more violent eruptions than the last, some of the pictures lately are truly horrifying, as you said hope all is well with our friend


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Doc the people in that region are going through hell lately, earthquakes. tsunami and Merapi seemingly getting bigger and more violent eruptions than the last, some of the pictures lately are truly horrifying, as you said hope all is well with our friend


I first heard the news on BBC driving home from the railroad station, and before the name came forth my mind said "Merapi". Stratovolcanoes like Merapi, Mayon in the Philipines, which is also recently active, Vesuvius in I Italy, and our own St. Helens are characterized by the thick lavas which issue from their magma chambers. They don't degass easily like the Hawaiian fluid lavas, but are pasty and choke thd conduits. The lava domes which are spoken of are actually the top end of the material in the conduit, much like thick paste in a tube. When the internal pressure builds and overcomes the resistance the material shatters into pariticles of various sizes and are carried either aloft as volcanic plumes or down $@!&# as pyroclastic flows. The energy behind those events is awesome. Witness St Helens , Pinotubo as other examples. There were six such surges out of Vesuvius in 79 AD which buried Pompeii, Herculaneum, and killed their people. Also out of Pelee on Martinique on 1902 which laid waste to the town of St.Pierre and killed 30,000 in less than two minuties. These often occur when the components of the eruption become too heavy to be sent aloft and so they come down $@!&# instead. They can travel miles and incredible speed. We've seen the same phenomenon in the last decade on Monteserrat in the Cariibbean in quite detail, the island having a personal connection with many of our favorite artists, hence the benefit concert which was given for the people in the past decade.

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:shock: :shock: Well....that's interesting....can't imagine what it is about a word which describes the characteristics of a line, and is used in mathematics, skiing, and mountaineering as well, which requires a censor.
Yo Brad!!! What does your program think I'm writing here :?:

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Hi, I'm here

Sorry for my absence for a long time because I'm currently busy with my school and rarely check out for the update here.
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But thanks to Solid Body Love Songs, who notified me via Facebook about this post

The condition here is much more like hell, after a big flood in Papua, the biggest traffic jam in Jakarta ever, Earthquake and Tsunami in Mentawai Island plus the first eruption of Merapi in 26 October ago. Now, last update from the official said that 22 volcanoes in Indonesia are more volcanically active. Maybe some of you have heard about Anak Krakatau (Krakatoa's child) volcano activity.

About the Merapi itself, my location is about 500 kilometers from Merapi and I'm OK....but this morning I found that in my car's window, there's something that much more like dust, but it's white, like a chalk...on the afternoon I saw on the TV that the volcanic ash already reached my city, Bogor.

Maybe some of you know about the death of the Mount Merapi Keeper (Mr. Maridjan) in the first days of eruption.

I called my relatives in Jogjakarta few days ago. They live more than 40 kilometers from the mountain but still the situation is not good. They have relatively darker sky due to ashes, and some people there feel a hotter air temperature.

We just can keep praying, because year by year, the land of Indonesia is always struck by disasters. Flood, earthquake, volcano, landslide, happen almost every year. So thanks to you guys who are concerning about this condition. We really hope those things will stop really soon, and we can make things better here for living.

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[quote="leonardusnn"]Hi, I'm here[quote]

It is good toknow that you are, and that you are essentially well. You're beginning to experience some of the fall out, similar to what the western US suffered in the wake of St. Helens 30 years ago. The fate of The Keeper reminds one of Harry Truman, the crusty old inn keeper who lived under St. Helens and vowed never to leave there. There he remains to this day.

As far as your geological niche is concerned. it's not the place to be. Neither is the Pacific Northwest for that matter. The world out there is sitting on a time bomb just waiting under the Cascadia Fault. So much for the Ring of Fire and those who populate it. We've written about Krakatau with you in these pages before, a vent which is continuously active, and has had not been kind to tourists in the recent past.

I know that I speak for all of us when I say that our thoughts go to members of your family, still in the area yet under siege, and the hope that they will prevail.

Do keep us updated beyond what the media has to offer, and feel free to friend me on Facebook. I only connect with the Forum there. No other individuals comprise my contacts.

Stay safe.

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Actually there's one island of Indonesia, Kalimantan, that is safe from earthquake and volcano because it's located quite far enough from the fault on the east side of Sumatra and south side of Java.

Days ago, some scientist worried about Merapi, because there's a bump growing. Some speculation said that Merapi could erupt like St. Helens, eruption from the mountain side. But until today, Merapi still erupts vertically.

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Glad to hear your ok Leo & second Docs thoughts for your family, be safe and take care


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The world out there is sitting on a time bomb


Actually there's one island of Indonesia, Kalimantan, that is safe from earthquake and volcano because it's located quite far enough from the fault on the east side of Sumatra and south side of Java.

Days ago, some scientist worried about Merapi, because there's a bump growing. Some speculation said that Merapi could erupt like St. Helens, eruption from the mountain side. But until today, Merapi still erupts vertically.


The location of that island might not be out of the way of tsunamis created by ocean floor displacements.

The Stl Helen's analogy might not fit here completed. Merapi's flank is truncated and seems to serve as a sluice way for a lot of summit ejecta. Stratovolcanoes bulge in response to the pressure of magma forcing its way up into an edifice which is essentially a pile of junk...like a cake...layers upon layers of all kinds of volcanic products not necessary bonded together. In the case of St. Helens, the cryptodome, or magma body forcing its way into the north face of the mountain was causing a bulge which had given worry because the side of the mountain (can't use the word $@!&# in here it seems) was showing cracks. It was a 5.4 earthquake which completed the fracture, causing most of the north face to slide down into the valley, facilitating that incredible lateral blast. There's a mountain in Kamchatka called Besimayani which has the same architecture as St. Helens, likely caused by a similar event, but was not witnessed and documented in such detail as chance had it. Santa Maria, in
Nicaragua, also erupted in such fashion early in the 20th Century with destructive force, but I don't think a landslide precipitated it. I have concerns for your countrymen in that region should this structural change be truly happening. If that magma has found a weak point in the edifice and is pushing laterally, once it overcomes the resistance of the structure and bursts through, there'll a free exit for the contents of the entire magma chamber below the mountain with destructive outcome.

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Stay safe Leo, the Doc and all of us are thinking of you Bro, keep us updated when you can.

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Stay safe Leo, the Doc and all of us are thinking of you Bro, keep us updated when you can.

Ditto! I'm going to see if I can find anything out of Indonesia geosciences online which may be more descriptive of what's happening on that mountain.

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ripitup555 wrote:
Doc the people in that region are going through hell lately, earthquakes. tsunami and Merapi seemingly getting bigger and more violent eruptions than the last, some of the pictures lately are truly horrifying, as you said hope all is well with our friend


I first heard the news on BBC driving home from the railroad station, and before the name came forth my mind said "Merapi". Stratovolcanoes like Merapi, Mayon in the Philipines, which is also recently active, Vesuvius in I Italy, and our own St. Helens are characterized by the thick lavas which issue from their magma chambers. They don't degass easily like the Hawaiian fluid lavas, but are pasty and choke thd conduits. The lava domes which are spoken of are actually the top end of the material in the conduit, much like thick paste in a tube. When the internal pressure builds and overcomes the resistance the material shatters into pariticles of various sizes and are carried either aloft as volcanic plumes or down $@!&# as pyroclastic flows. The energy behind those events is awesome. Witness St Helens , Pinotubo as other examples. There were six such surges out of Vesuvius in 79 AD which buried Pompeii, Herculaneum, and killed their people. Also out of Pelee on Martinique on 1902 which laid waste to the town of St.Pierre and killed 30,000 in less than two minuties. These often occur when the components of the eruption become too heavy to be sent aloft and so they come down $@!&# instead. They can travel miles and incredible speed. We've seen the same phenomenon in the last decade on Monteserrat in the Cariibbean in quite detail, the island having a personal connection with many of our favorite artists, hence the benefit concert which was given for the people in the past decade.

Doc

:shock: :shock: Well....that's interesting....can't imagine what it is about a word which describes the characteristics of a line, and is used in mathematics, skiing, and mountaineering as well, which requires a censor.
Yo Brad!!! What does your program think I'm writing here :?:



It is probably because "5lope" is a racial slur toward Asians. I think primarily used in the military long ago.


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[/quote]It is probably because "5lope" is a racial slur toward Asians. I think primarily used in the military long ago.[/quote]

Well there's a little fact of life which is new to these 68 years. Nothwithstanding, it's kind of tough talking math or mountain matters without being able to use that word. :?

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Stay safe Leo, the Doc and all of us are thinking of you Bro, keep us updated when you can.

Ditto! I'm going to see if I can find anything out of Indonesia geosciences online which may be more descriptive of what's happening on that mountain.


UPDATE: go to www.volcanodiscovery.com/merapi.html Great information, history, and updating. 8)

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ZZDoc wrote:
UPDATE: go to www.volcanodiscovery.com/merapi.html Great information, history, and updating. 8)


Thanks Doc.
With the frequency of activity for this volcano, all of the fatalities and destruction caused by that activity, people still live there which seems dangerous at the very least.

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ZZDoc wrote:
It is probably because "5lope" is a racial slur toward Asians. I think primarily used in the military long ago.[/quote]

Well there's a little fact of life which is new to these 68 years. Nothwithstanding, it's kind of tough talking math or mountain matters without being able to use that word. :?[/quote]

Agreed. It should be removed from the censor list. It comes up a lot in mechanical discussions.


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