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bama has travel more then any President did in there first two years. In fact in his first six months he double what any other President did in that time frame accept for Bush jr., bama only traveled about 30% more then him.in that time

I don't think he ever stopped campaigning, could be he is hoping to become supreme leader of the world empire or the coming of Christ
Me I see a community activist that had a lot of smart people handing him. Cultivating his move thru politics. Carl Rove type people on the Dem. side.
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You crack me up big time. You're kind of sound like Rush, Beck and Sean Hannity all rolled up into one guy.LOL No offense meant. Bush spent a lot of time on vacation. Who cares? If I was the Prez, I'd bee smoking weed on a daily basis, not cigarettes. Lot's of former presidents smoked in our house. I don't care, I don't live in it and never will.

The Republican agenda now is not cooperation with the other side of the isle, but how to get the rest of the Democrats and Obama out of office. They're all a bunch of tools. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever get a politician to represent the people.
Hi ther 63Supro, Whast even funnier is that I am not a fan of any of the guys you mentioned. I have never listen to Beck and have no desire to listen to Rush or Hannity on the radio either. Don't remember the last time I heard any of them. Radios are tuned to sports talk ESPN by day and at night while going to sleep Coast to Coast AM ( George Noory) tonights show is on paranormal beliefs.
And remember the White House is a Federal building and smoking is not allowed, he would be breaking the law. :lol:

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63supro I said bush spent 100 billion as his biggest deffasit spending I know he spent allot more then that in all but his biggest defasit was 100 billion. My point is that Obamas biggest deffasit is ten times that amount.


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63supro I said bush spent 100 billion as his biggest deffasit spending I know he spent allot more then that in all but his biggest defasit was 100 billion. My point is that Obamas biggest deffasit is ten times that amount.
You want to get upset about bama spending read this.

The claim that Congress is temporarily increasing welfare spending for Keynesian purposes (to spark the economy by boosting consumer spending) is a red herring. The real goal is to get "the camel's nose under the tent" for a massive permanent expansion of the welfare state.

In the first year after enactment of the stimulus bill, federal welfare spending will explode upward by more than 20 percent, rising from $491 billion in FY 2008 to $601 billion in FY 2009. This one-year explosion in welfare spending is, by far, the largest in U.S. history. But spending will continue to rise even further in future years. The stimulus bill is a welfare spendathon, a massive down payment on Obama's promise to "spread the wealth."

Once the hidden welfare spending in the bill is counted, the total 10-year fiscal burden (added to the national debt) will not be $816 billion, as claimed, but $1.34 trillion. This amounts to $17,400 for each household paying income tax in the U.S.

Even without the extra spending in the stimulus bill, means-tested welfare spending is already at a historic high and growing rapidly. In 2008, federal, state, and local means-tested spending hit $679 billion per year. Without any legislative expansions, given historic rates of growth in welfare programs, federal, state, and local means-tested welfare spending over the next decade will total $8.97 trillion. The House stimulus bill adds another $787 billion to this total, yielding a 10-year total of $9.8 trillion. The total 10-year cost of means-tested welfare will then amount to $127,000 for each household paying federal income tax :shock:

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63supro I said bush spent 100 billion as his biggest deffasit spending I know he spent allot more then that in all but his biggest defasit was 100 billion. My point is that Obamas biggest deffasit is ten times that amount.
You want to get upset about bama spending read this.

The claim that Congress is temporarily increasing welfare spending for Keynesian purposes (to spark the economy by boosting consumer spending) is a red herring. The real goal is to get "the camel's nose under the tent" for a massive permanent expansion of the welfare state.

In the first year after enactment of the stimulus bill, federal welfare spending will explode upward by more than 20 percent, rising from $491 billion in FY 2008 to $601 billion in FY 2009. This one-year explosion in welfare spending is, by far, the largest in U.S. history. But spending will continue to rise even further in future years. The stimulus bill is a welfare spendathon, a massive down payment on Obama's promise to "spread the wealth."

Once the hidden welfare spending in the bill is counted, the total 10-year fiscal burden (added to the national debt) will not be $816 billion, as claimed, but $1.34 trillion. This amounts to $17,400 for each household paying income tax in the U.S.

Even without the extra spending in the stimulus bill, means-tested welfare spending is already at a historic high and growing rapidly. In 2008, federal, state, and local means-tested spending hit $679 billion per year. Without any legislative expansions, given historic rates of growth in welfare programs, federal, state, and local means-tested welfare spending over the next decade will total $8.97 trillion. The House stimulus bill adds another $787 billion to this total, yielding a 10-year total of $9.8 trillion. The total 10-year cost of means-tested welfare will then amount to $127,000 for each household paying federal income tax :shock:


You know, for what it's worth, I would encourage everyone to write an I.O.U. and sign it NOT!
I think the politicians themselves ought to pay the bill, they are the ones who spent the money.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. The future does NOT look good at all for American citizens and while China is the current emerging economic powerhouse, I think it's only a matter of time before the people turn on the government of the PRC when they cannot stand the pollution anymore.
I think China's industrial boom comes at America's expense. But I don't blame China, rather, the blame falls squarely on the American people and their elected officials.
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One point which has not been brought up:

India is arguably America's most important pound-for-pound current and up-and-coming staunch ally (and a tremendous potential market).


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One point which has not been brought up:

India is arguably America's most important pound-for-pound current and up-and-coming staunch ally (and a tremendous potential market).

They are also securing their border and putting an end to their problem with illegal immigrants from Bangladesh ruining their economy by building a Border wall, over a border that is bigger in mileage than ours with Mexico and more treacherous in landscape and terrain. They understand the drain that illegal immigrants put on an economy.

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Check out these photos of India. Prepare yourself for alot. Not Safe For Work or anywhere else. I bet he doesn't see one corpse floating near bathers. HTTP://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures ... tions.html
I know this is only a small part of India, but I had no idea.


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WOW even NBC made reference to bama as Barry Sotero while he was in Indonesia and showed were he went to school and lived for I think was 4 years. Another twist of our president born who knows where and raised under two different names and who knows what religion. Most are commonly known but the media seldom mentions things such as his other name.

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They are also securing their border and putting an end to their problem with illegal immigrants from Bangladesh ruining their economy by building a Border wall, over a border that is bigger in mileage than ours with Mexico and more treacherous in landscape and terrain. They understand the drain that illegal immigrants put on an economy.


It sure would be nice if the droids in Washington would figure out what the Indians know and do something pro-active to unf_ck the mess we have down here in the Sonoran Desert.

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They are also securing their border and putting an end to their problem with illegal immigrants from Bangladesh ruining their economy by building a Border wall, over a border that is bigger in mileage than ours with Mexico and more treacherous in landscape and terrain. They understand the drain that illegal immigrants put on an economy.


It sure would be nice if the droids in Washington would figure out what the Indians know and do something pro-active to unf_ck the mess we have down here in the Sonoran Desert.

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Well he's back to a lame duck congress, the value of the dollar dropping and nations visited did nothing but rebuff him. Proof of little standing and the weakening of the United States.

Does the economy stand a chance!!!! We may be having to carry Yuan's around at this rate to have something of value!!!!

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Well he's back to a lame duck congress, the value of the dollar dropping and nations visited did nothing but rebuff him. Proof of little standing and the weakening of the United States.


Indeed!

Mr. Soetoro is still batting 1.000 on the world stage.

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Don't worry, it will be all fine in a couple of weeks. :?
Seems like the backpedaling is already beginning. We'll see. I think the next big war may be a civil one if none of these clowns can get their act together and make some serious plans on getting some jobs back home.
The only big plan I've heard from the Republican party so far for job creation is the keep giving big tax breaks to the wealthy so they'll keep employing the Chinese, er I mean Americans. It hasn't been working and they have been getting the tax breaks all along. They all just laugh all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not into the us vs them thing or one party over another, I'm disappointed in our government as a whole. If I hear one more conservative right wing "death panel" spiel from I'll probably puke. We already have "death panels" It's called the health insurance claims denial department. The Democrats are just as bad. It's not just the elderly either. I know of several friends of mine who were denied coverage for life saving treatment that they couldn't afford and are now deceased.

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We already have "death panels" It's called the health insurance claims denial department. The Democrats are just as bad. It's not just the elderly either. I know of several friends of mine who were denied coverage for life saving treatment that they couldn't afford and are now deceased.


Indeed.

But at least under the "old" system, a patient with the means to bypass an HMO altogether and pay for those life-saving treatments out of his/her own pocket was free to do so.

Under Obama care, any physician or health-care provider who disregards the recommendation(s) of the government's treatment advisory panel faces a mandatory prison term and hefty fines.

Thus, it won't be possible to buy treatment even if one could afford to.

And at the projected rate that physicians and other health-care professionals leave the medical field due to these onerous mandates, we'll all face the prospect of increasingly rationed health care.

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