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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:36 pm
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Check out these photos of India. Prepare yourself for alot. Not Safe For Work or anywhere else. I bet he doesn't see one corpse floating near bathers. HTTP://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures ... tions.html
I know this is only a small part of India, but I had no idea.


Whoa, those shots are gnarly.

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You have to keep in mind that he knows very well that "Global Warming" has nothing to do with man made carbon emissions, it is yet another scam the people are really buying into. Carbon credits anyone? It's all about the power and money. Gee, I wonder what happens when the Earth gets closer to the sun.....hmmmm....??? :idea:


Just another rod used to beat more money out of the average Joe.
You are correct there, when bama uses the word carbon footprint he is just thinking how much can I charge for that size foot. Got to pay for the socialist programs somehow, what better way to do it then to tell uninformed we are saving the world in the process.
In the process the rich people that the left wing like to say cause all the problems are just going to be getting richer selling carbon credits at the expense of others. Like all other things cost gets passed down the line be it your gas in cars or home energy cost. Just thank bama and friends because it's for your own good!!!! Dam rich people :wink:

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I understand business and the global economy but what world leader travels with a 2000 person posse at 200 million dollars a day? And hand the bill to the taxpayers who are already struggling? I don't expect him to ride a camel. I think air force one would be good enough. It's pretty nice. Not enough for the greatest person on earth. And do you really believe he knows anything about business?


I agree, it's outrageous, but politics is a business.


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gomania16 wrote:
Check out these photos of India. Prepare yourself for alot. Not Safe For Work or anywhere else. I bet he doesn't see one corpse floating near bathers. HTTP://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures ... tions.html
I know this is only a small part of India, but I had no idea.


Whoa, those shots are gnarly.



Darn right they are.
It going to look like that in the US some day.


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:44 am
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First, I don't believe those figures are accurate and soundbites are great but usually biased.
Furthermore what are the job parameters of that contingency.

Here is something to think about, remember a couple years ago when Pakistan and India were about ready to lob nuke missiles at each other?
Both of those states have dangerously serious paradoxes.

I want our President to go overseas and sit down with ministers and presidents and discuss matters. That is his job, his effectiveness depends on relations with other countries.
Like it or not we are now fully immersed in a global economy where borders are irrelevant. Current economics showcase that countries are not economically insular of each other.
There is an old saying..
" Keep your friends close, your enemies closer"

Our last president couldn't be bothered for peaceful meetings.
As far as economics, we've leveraged ourselves to the hilt in the last 25 years all the while putting off what needed attention to tomorrow.

I'm in the residential building trade, it's eased off considerably, but for years we overbuilt, built substandard structures at inflated prices and now wonder why the buyers (having wisened up) are demanding quality and cost effective products. Houses were treated like durable goods and treated as investments in the financial markets.
Only one problem, liquidity is/was never possible with real estate due to the tedious process and it complexities of selling that product.
Yep, the economy took a downturn and many of us got caught with our pants down aroud our ankles believing it would never happen to us :oops:

It is not immediate and turn around is going to take time, one big problem is that the workforce are not up to speed with today's technological requirements, in my field it is rare that i run into someone who is bilingual, let alone multilingual, 20 years ago, in Europe fluency in 3 or more languages was the required norm, here stateside we are just waking up to that fact...

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You make some good points 53magnatone. It is unfortunately true that it all about "global" thinking these days (new world order ;) ). In an earlier post, I alluded to the fact that our President's Constitutional responsibility, actually sworn oath, is to "protect, preserve and defend the Constitution of the US", not the rest of the world. He, and many before him have failed at that responsibility, miserably. Gov want to increase my taxes, for trips around the world that truly serve no purpose for the US people? :lol:

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Just think how much better that $2 billion could be spent here in the USA given the current economic situation.

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I disagree, the US was and still is in many respects isolationistic. (This is an observation on my part) having lived in France, in comparisons, the US is immense, the logistics of getting from A to B almost certainly require personal transportation, with so much time and effort spent in transit, it is not surprising the majority of Americans do not travel abroad. Thus that critical component for today's world of experiencing first hand, other cultures is not present and now with the recent increase in immigration, americans may feel a bit claustrophobic, we are in an adjustment period, we are not going in reverse, we may renew old mistakes but we cannot go back in time.

Protecting the idea's or I should say "The Articles" of the Constitution requires cooperation from other nations, thus, good diplomatic relations which, necessitates a hands on approach.
In many cultures, to send an underling to meet with head of state is impolite and may well be insulting.
As serious as international diplomacy is, not to mention the requirement for translators, a message passed on thru 2, 3 or more people always becomes changed and could then be misconstrued.

We the US are often regarded by other countries as a world leader, though that is being challenged by other's today in commerce, finance and unfortunately armed conflict.
I want to know what is happening in the rest of the world and wether that affects us or not and vice versa..

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Originally posted by turrican
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You can't think of a better use for 200 million a day?


I don't know if it would be better, but I'd sure as hell use it. I'm feeling 200 million dollars worth of fireworks. I wonder how much it would cost to have recarve mount Rushmore to have the 3 Stooges alongside the forefathers. I'd buy 100 million dollars worth of pollen and other allergens then unleash a huge cloud over New York City. The other 100 million dollars would be invested in the Kleenex and antihistamine industry. I'd buy boardwalk and park place and build hotels.

Anyhow, I'm just wondering how much of an effect India has on our economy. I think they're only second to China in terms of outsourcing, not sure on that but I know they're up there and that number grows every day. A trip that serves no purpose to the people in the US? I think not <_<

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I disagree, the US was and still is in many respects isolationistic. (This is an observation on my part) having lived in France, in comparisons, the US is immense, the logistics of getting from A to B almost certainly require personal transportation, with so much time and effort spent in transit, it is not surprising the majority of Americans do not travel abroad. Thus that critical component for today's world of experiencing first hand, other cultures is not present and now with the recent increase in immigration, americans may feel a bit claustrophobic, we are in an adjustment period, we are not going in reverse, we may renew old mistakes but we cannot go back in time.

Protecting the idea's or I should say "The Articles" of the Constitution requires cooperation from other nations, thus, good diplomatic relations which, necessitates a hands on approach.
In many cultures, to send an underling to meet with head of state is impolite and may well be insulting.
As serious as international diplomacy is, not to mention the requirement for translators, a message passed on thru 2, 3 or more people always becomes changed and could then be misconstrued.

We the US are often regarded by other countries as a world leader, though that is being challenged by other's today in commerce, finance and unfortunately armed conflict.
I want to know what is happening in the rest of the world and wether that affects us or not and vice versa..

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right or wrong, good or bad, black or white, right or left etc.......
this will not sit well with the taxpayers.


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compared to what obama has been spending 2 billion is nothing.
Every body was complaining about how much bush spent, but his biggest deffasit spending (srry not sure how to spell that) was 100billion.
Obamas biggest is 1 trillion. Obama spends as much every month as Bush did every year. Obama has also added 5trillion to our debt, and he's only been in office about 2 years!. I sure am glad a republican is speaker of the house now.


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bassplayer++ wrote:
compared to what obama has been spending 2 billion is nothing.
Every body was complaining about how much bush spent, but his biggest deffasit spending (srry not sure how to spell that) was 100billion.
Obamas biggest is 1 trillion. Obama spends as much every month as Bush did every year. Obama has also added 5trillion to our debt, and he's only been in office about 2 years!. I sure am glad a republican is speaker of the house now.


Now it's the Republicans turn. Let's see if these geniuses can turn everything around now. If the petty us against them crap don't stop, nothing will get done. This whole thing is Deja Vu. Lets see if the middle class don't get burned a little more. Both sides are guilty of big spending. Even though it didn't work, Obama tried to do something besides feed the war machine and make Dick Cheney and Halliburton rich. Makes sense, start a war and get your Vice Prez's company with no bid contracts to clean it up. How about Kellogg which is a subsidiary of Halliburton grossly overcharging the military for food? If you want to balance the budget, get the religious right to start paying taxes or keep their mouths shut when it comes to politics. I'm sure Bush spent way more than 100 billion LOL. Talk about casting stones. The Republicans don't have clean hands either. Just as dirty as the Democrats and the conservative movement. It's never been about the people they represent, it's about the corporations they represent. Sorry, got back on the soapbox.

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bama has travel more then any President did in there first two years. In fact in his first six months he double what any other President did in that time frame accept for Bush jr., bama only traveled about 30% more then him.in that time

I don't think he ever stopped campaigning, could be he is hoping to become supreme leader of the world empire or the coming of Christ
Me I see a community activist that had a lot of smart people handing him. Cultivating his move thru politics. Carl Rove type people on the Dem. side.
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bama has travel more then any President did in there first two years. In fact in his first six months he double what any other President did in that time frame accept for Bush jr., bama only traveled about 30% more then him.in that time

I don't think he ever stopped campaigning, could be he is hoping to become supreme leader of the world empire or the coming of Christ
Me I see a community activist that had a lot of smart people handing him. Cultivating his move thru politics. Carl Rove type people on the Dem. side.
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You crack me up big time. You're kind of sound like Rush, Beck and Sean Hannity all rolled up into one guy.LOL No offense meant. Bush spent a lot of time on vacation. Who cares? If I was the Prez, I'd bee smoking weed on a daily basis, not cigarettes. Lot's of former presidents smoked in our house. I don't care, I don't live in it and never will.

The Republican agenda now is not cooperation with the other side of the isle, but how to get the rest of the Democrats and Obama out of office. They're all a bunch of tools. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever get a politician to represent the people.

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