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Why anyone would vote for a political party that offers a regurgitation of failed policies that have lead to a serious world recession is beyond me. But alas people have short and selective memories.


Really? like the time back in 2003 Barney Frank and his posse opposed the attempt by the GOP to increase oversight of Freddie and Fannie due to all the BS going there. That really did the American people a lot of good with respect to the housing market.


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belly65 wrote:
Why anyone would vote for a political party that offers a regurgitation of failed policies that have lead to a serious world recession is beyond me. But alas people have short and selective memories.


Really? like the time back in 2003 Barney Frank and his posse opposed the attempt by the GOP to increase oversight of Freddie and Fannie due to all the BS going there. That really did the American people a lot of good with respect to the housing market.


Barney Franks a tool for sure but the banking industry does what it wants and controls the world.


I wish even one person here would watch "The Money Masters".
Barney Frank is just a tiny cogs in a huge machine. He's just a puppet.
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I hope that soon everyone will realize that the whole Democrat or Republican nonsense is a side show and those parties are nothing like they used to be. They each have their pet issues that are used to rouse the voters to support them. Neither are for the American people, both parties are merely corporate representatives, put in office by the very rich, to do the bidding of the rich. Every President, since I have been alive (and way before I was born), has abused their Constitutional authority using some phony "war" or "emergency" to gain more power, and take more of our rights away. They NEVER give up that stolen authority, so they get more power, we get less freedom and security. All of these Presidents have been liars/thieves/globalist "new world order" freaks. Some of these Presidents may have been manipulated, incredibly stupid, or just too idealistic, but certainly none of them have helped us out in the least bit, as far as securing our freedoms or our economy.

Politics is all about Huge global corporations and treaties, not local concerns at all. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights has been under attack for a very long time, and lately it seems that they have figured out how to just plain ignore it instead of trying so hard to change it. The first Amendment isn't a right any more, we are censored, banned, and otherwise driven away from publicly expressing our beliefs. Are you aware that it is against the law to tell people about natural cures for diseases? And yet the pharmaceutical companies that pushed this law through have cured exactly nothing with their man made "medicines". The money is in treatment, not cures. ;) The second Amendment is now also ignored by the authorities, depending on your location. And yet, the second Amendment is being twisted into a tool for the anti-gun globalist freaks. We were lied to about the 16th Amendment being ratified, and lied to about how it is NOT applicable to individuals Check the Supreme Court cases for yourselves.

The injustices go on and on...., but I won't. It just seems that the records of candidates are there for review, so why listen to some talking head whose job it is to convince you yeah or nea. And the anecdotal evidence means nothing! I can tell you that financially I was doing very well when Reagan was in office, poorly under Clinton (lost my job), great under Bush, now bad again under Obama. It has nothing at all to do with who was President at the time, and everything to do with my circumstances. They all sucked as far as I'm concerned. And usually, the policies of a President, aren't immediately a cause for change, it takes a while most of the time. As a note of interest, how about checking out the internment camps that are being built across the country. Best bet might be to apply for a job in one now, to avoid being a guest due to your political beliefs later. :idea:

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captainc wrote:
belly65 wrote:
Why anyone would vote for a political party that offers a regurgitation of failed policies that have lead to a serious world recession is beyond me. But alas people have short and selective memories.


Really? like the time back in 2003 Barney Frank and his posse opposed the attempt by the GOP to increase oversight of Freddie and Fannie due to all the BS going there. That really did the American people a lot of good with respect to the housing market.


Where did you get this whopper from..fox news? The republicans controlled both houses of congress at the time and controlled the executive branch of government. If republicans wanted to increase oversight of freddie and fannie all they had to do is pass a bill and the president signs it and it becomes law. Cute of you to try and blame this on barney frank and democrats when they did not control the legislature or the executive branch of government.


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I'm glad I live in a country where freedom of expression is allowed in our society and in this forum as well. I tend to be conservative on economic and social issues and I was pleased with the results of the election last night.

Government does some things well and others not so well. Businesses need to be regulated but not over regulated. Government needs to provide public services that are not profitable enough to entice private enterprise to provide. Government should also recognize when businesses do a better job than they do and get out of the way. Businesses need to balance the need for profit and the needs of their employees. Employees need to realize that their job tenure is dependent on their performance and not a civil right written into the constitution.

Americans whether liberal, conservative, or in between need to realize we're all Americans and work together to meet the needs of our country without punishing those who have succeeded and rewarding those who have not tried.

Thats my 2 cents


That my friend would be the perfect world! I'm extremely fiscally conservative and somewhat socially liberal. Yeah, I'm one of those legalize drugs, personal responsibility, let God take the trash out, stay out of my private life Libertarians.

The corporate greed and government intrusion in our personal lives needs to stop. We'll see what happens this time. The tables can always turn again! Seems like the American people are starting to grow a pair and are beginning to take action. Let's see if the Republicans can provide the "Hopey Changey" stuff they're promising.


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[quote="shimmilou"]I hope that soon everyone will realize that the whole Democrat or Republican nonsense is a side show and those parties are nothing like they used to be.

They are actually like they've always been only worse. :wink:
Actually, I lost MY job under Reagan I was a union machinist, floundered under Bush Sr, Made gobs of cash under Clinton and almost lost my business under Bush Jr. Guess it just depends on what industry you were in. :wink: I'm actually doing pretty well under Obama. I don't think any of them had a thing to do with it except Ronald Ray Gun. Employee givebacks and union busting were the norm back then.

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shimmilou wrote:
I hope that soon everyone will realize that the whole Democrat or Republican nonsense is a side show and those parties are nothing like they used to be. They each have their pet issues that are used to rouse the voters to support them. Neither are for the American people, both parties are merely corporate representatives, put in office by the very rich, to do the bidding of the rich. Every President, since I have been alive (and way before I was born), has abused their Constitutional authority using some phony "war" or "emergency" to gain more power, and take more of our rights away. They NEVER give up that stolen authority, so they get more power, we get less freedom and security. All of these Presidents have been liars/thieves/globalist "new world order" freaks. Some of these Presidents may have been manipulated, incredibly stupid, or just too idealistic, but certainly none of them have helped us out in the least bit, as far as securing our freedoms or our economy.

Politics is all about Huge global corporations and treaties, not local concerns at all. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights has been under attack for a very long time, and lately it seems that they have figured out how to just plain ignore it instead of trying so hard to change it. The first Amendment isn't a right any more, we are censored, banned, and otherwise driven away from publicly expressing our beliefs. Are you aware that it is against the law to tell people about natural cures for diseases? And yet the pharmaceutical companies that pushed this law through have cured exactly nothing with their man made "medicines". The money is in treatment, not cures. ;) The second Amendment is now also ignored by the authorities, depending on your location. And yet, the second Amendment is being twisted into a tool for the anti-gun globalist freaks. We were lied to about the 16th Amendment being ratified, and lied to about how it is NOT applicable to individuals Check the Supreme Court cases for yourselves.

The injustices go on and on...., but I won't. It just seems that the records of candidates are there for review, so why listen to some talking head whose job it is to convince you yeah or nea. And the anecdotal evidence means nothing! I can tell you that financially I was doing very well when Reagan was in office, poorly under Clinton (lost my job), great under Bush, now bad again under Obama. It has nothing at all to do with who was President at the time, and everything to do with my circumstances. They all sucked as far as I'm concerned. And usually, the policies of a President, aren't immediately a cause for change, it takes a while most of the time. As a note of interest, how about checking out the internment camps that are being built across the country. Best bet might be to apply for a job in one now, to avoid being a guest due to your political beliefs later. :idea:


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How many times have you all heard a politician say they are "working hard to get things done for the American people."?

Something wrong about that kind of statement when you hear it over and over and over again.

Here's another one
"I will fight for you"

Is it me or do these words smell like a dirty dead rat?


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i'll be nice and just say this.......God Bless America


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Ahh, an AJ fan!


:?: Not sure who, or what, is AJ. I'm a Ron Paul fan, if that means anything anymore. :lol:

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eh? whats goin on here? what happened in your country?

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eh? whats goin on here? what happened in your country?

Mid term elections, now you know as much about it as i do.

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:?: Not sure who, or what, is AJ. I'm a Ron Paul fan, if that means anything anymore. :lol:


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Oh, I thought you said Ru Paul. :shock:

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