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Progressive=liberal

Progressive=liberal

Progressive=Group favoring social reform

Progressive=Bankrupt country thru social programs

Progressive=Redistribute wealth

Progressive=Tells people separation of Church and State is in Constitution (Its Not)

Progressive=Support those who would kill you because you dislike those who protect you (example barbara boxer, henry waxmen) this could be underlying in some and not in others.

Progressive=We no whats good for all even when they disagree


Inbreeding is a horrible thing.


Liberal style come back=insult or call names when otherwise no intelligence is available by person making the comeback. Also shows lack of proper upbringing.
Which may be do to inbreeding of two making for intellectually defective liberal.

Nothing will ever change there thoughts do to impossibility to do so.



Sorry the inbreeding joke hit a nerve.

Conservative=stale

Conservative= staying with old failed policies

Conservative=Bankrupt the Country by giving tax breaks to the wealthy

Conservative=Destroying the middle class

Conservative=A secret wish to establish a christian theocracy

Conservative=govern by playing on peoples fears
Conservative=Don't you just love Attila the Hun...
Used to liberals calling everyone that don't agree with them names Only defense they have most times because theres little record of success to be raised by them. How much better off are we as a generation then our parents since social progressiveness has brought down religion and introduced social programs? We are the first generation to be worst off then our parents!!!! When did that fall start happening? What changes correspond to the fall? CONSTITUTIONALLY and SOCIALLY Just look at the countries history. Things have gotten better for the majority since the beginning, slow at times with bumps here and there but recent past has been steady decline for the majority. The generation of love all, all are equal, no one should be better off then any one else, the Constitution is a breathing document, addition of social and welfare programs well that generation have not succeeded. The majority are not better off because all those things have caused the reverse effect to them. Look around it can not be denied. The more poor now, high crime rates no matter they say. We cry about thousand getting kidded in Iraq but have fail to do anything about the tens off thousands that will be murder in our own country this year alone. Police can't stop someone who fits a profile thats not right,there not allowed to ask if you a citizen. The Social progressives of this generation have failed and want to keep adding failure out of the want of being fair to all.
What happened to the beliefs of the greatest generation, how did it get twisted?
Violent crimes is not down studies show that since the perfecting of places like the shock trauma centers you stand a better chance of surviving.
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After the repeal of alcohol prohibition, the murder rate declined sharply throughout the Great Depression (so much for the Marxian view) and bottomed out around 1960. The murder rate then began to climb beginning with Nixon’s "War on Drugs," rising above the rate of 10, during the 1970s and 1980s, before beginning its mysterious decline during the early 1990s. Taking Dr. Moore's findings into account, we would extend the uptrend that started in the 1960s, but instead of leveling off around 10 during the 1970s, the trend would continue increasing at that angle until it hit a rate of 25 over the past couple of years Now we know, thanks to insights and research of Dr. Thomas and his colleagues that if you factor out improvements in medicine, that the "real" or "medical-adjusted" murder rate has continued to skyrocket during the war on drugs. The fact the victims actually survive is a gratifying success of the private sector, but it can no longer be used to hide the abysmal failure of the policy of drug prohibition.

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And come on Holmes was appointed to support Theo. Roosevelt
U.S. Supreme Court's great dissenter does not impress me in history as he does you.


Whether or not Holmes impresses me is not the issue. You attributed to the progressive of the 60's the doctrine that the Constitution is a living breathing document.

As I pointed out Holmes actually wrote that in a 1914 opinion of his. I offered this information to point out one of the inaccurate statements you made in your rant.

Also do some research and find out what violent crime rates were like in this country during the 1870's-1890's.

Or how about the violent crime attributed to the KKK during the Reconstruction period after the Civil War where some 20,000 African American men women and children were murdered by the KKK. in only a few years.


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belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
Progressive=liberal

Progressive=liberal

Progressive=Group favoring social reform

Progressive=Bankrupt country thru social programs

Progressive=Redistribute wealth

Progressive=Tells people separation of Church and State is in Constitution (Its Not)

Progressive=Support those who would kill you because you dislike those who protect you (example barbara boxer, henry waxmen) this could be underlying in some and not in others.

Progressive=We no whats good for all even when they disagree


Inbreeding is a horrible thing.


Liberal style come back=insult or call names when otherwise no intelligence is available by person making the comeback. Also shows lack of proper upbringing.
Which may be do to inbreeding of two making for intellectually defective liberal.

Nothing will ever change there thoughts do to impossibility to do so.



Sorry the inbreeding joke hit a nerve.

Conservative=stale

Conservative= staying with old failed policies

Conservative=Bankrupt the Country by giving tax breaks to the wealthy

Conservative=Destroying the middle class

Conservative=A secret wish to establish a christian theocracy

Conservative=govern by playing on peoples fears
Conservative=Don't you just love Attila the Hun...
Used to liberals calling everyone that don't agree with them names Only defense they have most times because theres little record of success to be raised by them. How much better off are we as a generation then our parents since social progressiveness has brought down religion and introduced social programs? We are the first generation to be worst off then our parents!!!! When did that fall start happening? What changes correspond to the fall? CONSTITUTIONALLY and SOCIALLY Just look at the countries history. Things have gotten better for the majority since the beginning, slow at times with bumps here and there but recent past has been steady decline for the majority. The generation of love all, all are equal, no one should be better off then any one else, the Constitution is a breathing document, addition of social and welfare programs well that generation have not succeeded. The majority are not better off because all those things have caused the reverse effect to them. Look around it can not be denied. The more poor now, high crime rates no matter they say. We cry about thousand getting kidded in Iraq but have fail to do anything about the tens off thousands that will be murder in our own country this year alone. Police can't stop someone who fits a profile thats not right,there not allowed to ask if you a citizen. The Social progressives of this generation have failed and want to keep adding failure out of the want of being fair to all.
What happened to the beliefs of the greatest generation, how did it get twisted?
Violent crimes is not down studies show that since the perfecting of places like the shock trauma centers you stand a better chance of surviving.
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After the repeal of alcohol prohibition, the murder rate declined sharply throughout the Great Depression (so much for the Marxian view) and bottomed out around 1960. The murder rate then began to climb beginning with Nixon’s "War on Drugs," rising above the rate of 10, during the 1970s and 1980s, before beginning its mysterious decline during the early 1990s. Taking Dr. Moore's findings into account, we would extend the uptrend that started in the 1960s, but instead of leveling off around 10 during the 1970s, the trend would continue increasing at that angle until it hit a rate of 25 over the past couple of years Now we know, thanks to insights and research of Dr. Thomas and his colleagues that if you factor out improvements in medicine, that the "real" or "medical-adjusted" murder rate has continued to skyrocket during the war on drugs. The fact the victims actually survive is a gratifying success of the private sector, but it can no longer be used to hide the abysmal failure of the policy of drug prohibition.

End quote

And come on Holmes was appointed to support Theo. Roosevelt
U.S. Supreme Court's great dissenter does not impress me in history as he does you.


Whether or not Holmes impresses me is not the issue. You attributed to the progressive of the 60's the doctrine that the Constitution is a living breathing document.

As I pointed out Holmes actually wrote that in a 1914 opinion of his. I offered this information to point out one of the inaccurate statements you made in your rant.

Also do some research and find out what violent crime rates were like in this country during the 1870's-1890's.

Or how about the violent crime attributed to the KKK during the Reconstruction period after the Civil War where some 20,000 African American men women and children were murdered by the KKK. in only a few years.
I did not say the use of the statement that the constitution is a living breathing document was from the sixties. I know who said it and when. Many of the 60's love to use it and reference Holmes who was an early progressive and went against the grain a the majority at his time. Thus the great decenter!!!! You are proof that the progressives of the sixties on generation are impressed by and use this statement.

172 murders in Bmore this year so far. 2009=238 2008=234 2007=282 2006=206

Th last ten years murder rate have been steady between 15,500 to 17,000 a year

Violent crimes the last ten years have been beween 1,640,000 to 1,426,000 with 03' & 04' the best two year period.

You other statement I will not get into with you but I will remind you that the KKK was started to go against both black and white republicans!!!!
Your 20,00 number I don't know about but there were almost 620,000 soldiers died during that War.

The End done with this, it will never change. Some are willing to fight the wars others want to protest and placate. In the end it's the first that pays the price for the second to have a right to protest and placate!!!! Until we change direction we have been headed the last 40+ years it just down hill until the real bubble burst again. Look at changes made on the maps of the world the last 40,50 years. We are not immune.

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this is entertaining. its like watching two 6 year old fight about whos imaginary friend is better

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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
this is entertaining. its like watching two 6 year old fight about whos imaginary friend is better

Ha, you should listen to the northern Ireland assembly trying to work something out sometime, they really are 6 year olds, one called another a ginger rodent recently.

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Tochai wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
this is entertaining. its like watching two 6 year old fight about whos imaginary friend is better

Ha, you should listen to the northern Ireland assembly trying to work something out sometime, they really are 6 year olds, one called another a ginger rodent recently.

oh Jesus i have to see that.... one of my favorite derp moments of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA

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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
Tochai wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
this is entertaining. its like watching two 6 year old fight about whos imaginary friend is better

Ha, you should listen to the northern Ireland assembly trying to work something out sometime, they really are 6 year olds, one called another a ginger rodent recently.

oh Jesus i have to see that.... one of my favorite derp moments of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA


Holy Jesus... that was great! see politics can be fun. Thanks for sharing that... i'm gonna get a lot of mileage out of that one. Capsize...hahahah


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cvilleira wrote:
belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
belly65 wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
Progressive=liberal

Progressive=liberal

Progressive=Group favoring social reform

Progressive=Bankrupt country thru social programs

Progressive=Redistribute wealth

Progressive=Tells people separation of Church and State is in Constitution (Its Not)

Progressive=Support those who would kill you because you dislike those who protect you (example barbara boxer, henry waxmen) this could be underlying in some and not in others.

Progressive=We no whats good for all even when they disagree


Inbreeding is a horrible thing.


Liberal style come back=insult or call names when otherwise no intelligence is available by person making the comeback. Also shows lack of proper upbringing.
Which may be do to inbreeding of two making for intellectually defective liberal.

Nothing will ever change there thoughts do to impossibility to do so.



Sorry the inbreeding joke hit a nerve.

Conservative=stale

Conservative= staying with old failed policies

Conservative=Bankrupt the Country by giving tax breaks to the wealthy

Conservative=Destroying the middle class

Conservative=A secret wish to establish a christian theocracy

Conservative=govern by playing on peoples fears
Conservative=Don't you just love Attila the Hun...
Used to liberals calling everyone that don't agree with them names Only defense they have most times because theres little record of success to be raised by them. How much better off are we as a generation then our parents since social progressiveness has brought down religion and introduced social programs? We are the first generation to be worst off then our parents!!!! When did that fall start happening? What changes correspond to the fall? CONSTITUTIONALLY and SOCIALLY Just look at the countries history. Things have gotten better for the majority since the beginning, slow at times with bumps here and there but recent past has been steady decline for the majority. The generation of love all, all are equal, no one should be better off then any one else, the Constitution is a breathing document, addition of social and welfare programs well that generation have not succeeded. The majority are not better off because all those things have caused the reverse effect to them. Look around it can not be denied. The more poor now, high crime rates no matter they say. We cry about thousand getting kidded in Iraq but have fail to do anything about the tens off thousands that will be murder in our own country this year alone. Police can't stop someone who fits a profile thats not right,there not allowed to ask if you a citizen. The Social progressives of this generation have failed and want to keep adding failure out of the want of being fair to all.
What happened to the beliefs of the greatest generation, how did it get twisted?
Violent crimes is not down studies show that since the perfecting of places like the shock trauma centers you stand a better chance of surviving.
Quote
After the repeal of alcohol prohibition, the murder rate declined sharply throughout the Great Depression (so much for the Marxian view) and bottomed out around 1960. The murder rate then began to climb beginning with Nixon’s "War on Drugs," rising above the rate of 10, during the 1970s and 1980s, before beginning its mysterious decline during the early 1990s. Taking Dr. Moore's findings into account, we would extend the uptrend that started in the 1960s, but instead of leveling off around 10 during the 1970s, the trend would continue increasing at that angle until it hit a rate of 25 over the past couple of years Now we know, thanks to insights and research of Dr. Thomas and his colleagues that if you factor out improvements in medicine, that the "real" or "medical-adjusted" murder rate has continued to skyrocket during the war on drugs. The fact the victims actually survive is a gratifying success of the private sector, but it can no longer be used to hide the abysmal failure of the policy of drug prohibition.

End quote

And come on Holmes was appointed to support Theo. Roosevelt
U.S. Supreme Court's great dissenter does not impress me in history as he does you.


Whether or not Holmes impresses me is not the issue. You attributed to the progressive of the 60's the doctrine that the Constitution is a living breathing document.

As I pointed out Holmes actually wrote that in a 1914 opinion of his. I offered this information to point out one of the inaccurate statements you made in your rant.

Also do some research and find out what violent crime rates were like in this country during the 1870's-1890's.

Or how about the violent crime attributed to the KKK during the Reconstruction period after the Civil War where some 20,000 African American men women and children were murdered by the KKK. in only a few years.
I did not say the use of the statement that the constitution is a living breathing document was from the sixties. I know who said it and when. Many of the 60's love to use it and reference Holmes who was an early progressive and went against the grain a the majority at his time. Thus the great decenter!!!! You are proof that the progressives of the sixties on generation are impressed by and use this statement.

172 murders in Bmore this year so far. 2009=238 2008=234 2007=282 2006=206

Th last ten years murder rate have been steady between 15,500 to 17,000 a year

Violent crimes the last ten years have been beween 1,640,000 to 1,426,000 with 03' & 04' the best two year period.

You other statement I will not get into with you but I will remind you that the KKK was started to go against both black and white republicans!!!!
Your 20,00 number I don't know about but there were almost 620,000 soldiers died during that War.

The End done with this, it will never change. Some are willing to fight the wars others want to protest and placate. In the end it's the first that pays the price for the second to have a right to protest and placate!!!! Until we change direction we have been headed the last 40+ years it just down hill until the real bubble burst again. Look at changes made on the maps of the world the last 40,50 years. We are not immune.


I guess we must agree to disagree...

One thing we must have in common is a love for the movie Apocalypse Now.

Here are some of my favorite quotes in the movie from Colonel Walter E. Kurtz.

"We must kill them. We must incinerate them. Pig after pig. Cow after cow. Village after village. Army after army. And they call me an assassin. What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin? They lie. They lie, and we have to be merciful, for those who lie. Those nabobs. I hate them. I do hate them".

"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. That's my dream. It's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along the edge of a straight razor … and surviving".

And one from Captain Willard...

"At first, I thought they handed me the wrong dossier. I couldn't believe they wanted this man dead. Third generation West Point, top of his class. Korea, Airborne. About a thousand decorations. Etcetera, etcetera. I had heard his voice on the tape and it really put the hook in me. But I couldn't connect up that voice with this man. Like they said, he had an impressive career, maybe too impressive, I mean perfect. He was being groomed for one of the top slots in the corporation: General, Chief of Staff, anything. In 1964, he returned from a tour with advisory command in Vietnam and things started to slip. His report to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Lyndon Johnson was restricted. It seems they didn't dig what he had to tell 'em. During the next few months, he made three requests for transfer to Airborne training, Ft. Benning, Georgia and was finally accepted. Airborne? He was thirty-eight years old. Why the f--k would he do that? 1966: Joined Special Forces, returns Vietnam".

Ponder those for a while.


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cvilleira wrote:
I don't know about but there were almost 620,000 soldiers died during that War.


Not to keep the the Dead horse going but The numbers in WWI are pretty staggering as well if I may add.

The Battle of Brisilov alone... 1,600,000 From June til August.

The Battle of the Somme - 1,200,000 from July til November.

And that war was started by a 19 year old kid.


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captainc wrote:
cvilleira wrote:
I don't know about but there were almost 620,000 soldiers died during that War.


Not to keep the the Dead horse going but The numbers in WWI are pretty staggering as well if I may add.

The Battle of Brisilov alone... 1,600,000 From June til August.

The Battle of the Somme - 1,200,000 from July til November.

And that war was started by a 19 year old kid.


Ok, who's the kid that started that war?


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Twinhit wrote:
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cvilleira wrote:
I don't know about but there were almost 620,000 soldiers died during that War.


Not to keep the the Dead horse going but The numbers in WWI are pretty staggering as well if I may add.

The Battle of Brisilov alone... 1,600,000 From June til August.

The Battle of the Somme - 1,200,000 from July til November.

And that war was started by a 19 year old kid.


Ok, who's the kid that started that war?


Gavrilo Princip, by assasinating the archduke of Austria, he set off a chain of events.


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