Brad,
Please lock this thread!!! Politics, religion...against the forum rules! Thanks
Eric

The Bible doesn't have convenient answers for everything, like pseudo-science-religions proclaim. After a lifelong study of the Bible, you can clearly follow all of the generations of man and come up with quite a nice approx time-line of events. Also, you might note that the oldest living thing on earth is approx 4500 years old, some trees in California. The oldest desert on earth is also approx 4500 years old (Sahara?). Also, we know the population of Earth now, and over a long period, maybe back as far as the early 1900s. If you know how to fit a curve to the population data that we have now, the curve (exponential) will go back to about 4500 years ago, starting with as few as 11 people. The Bible puts the flood at approx 4500 years ago. One heckuva coincidence? Hardly. There are many, many more examples, the answers are there, if you are sincere about seeking them, you will find them.

Evolution!?! What does that even mean? I've heard false rumors that people believe that there is actually a "Theory of Evolution", as if it were science instead of religion, yet no one can state it. Any attempted explanation of this misnamed theory, usually result in a hodge-podge of false science and religious beliefs. Even those believers in "evolution" can't agree as to just what it really is. There is no "Theory of Evolution", thus it isn't science at all. Make no mistake, evolution doen't jive with reality, nor does it jive with a belief in God....unless you believe that God was a rock, that somehow evolved into man. That's what evolution tells us, we evolved from rocks. You can't deny that one, take the fantasy of evolution all the way back to the beginning, there were only rocks, right?

[ So you can believe some "alien' ship was able to silently "abduct" the guy, and travel to other planets having to be light years away, but you can't believe that they could overcome the gravitational pull of Venus????

...Blah, babble, nonsense, blah, contradiction, blather...

I agree! Very good point Marvin65, not many people catch that one. I might add that he also talked about "the potential for abuse". I feel that some presidents may have been the exception to the rule of evil. Kennedy (both Bobby and John, not Ted he played ball with the corps), Eisenhower, Reagan may have all been good guys that did what they could. I have always thought that Kennedys were killed by these same people to silence them.

...JFK wasn't necessarily a good guy, nor were any of the Kennedys....

You are right. I really just thought about the fact that he and his brother were killed, and there were hints and reports that those two were actually turning on the powers that be. But, compared to Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Clinton and Obama, the Kennedys....maybe not so bad. But, yes, I understand that the Kennedys were one big criminal organization to begin with, so it is really hard to cut them any slack.

Here is the point , a stolen identity is used to mail 3 bombs at the same office at the same time to synergogs in chicago from yemen , then calls to say where they are to be found and all on the eve of an election .
Now why would so many alarm bells be intentionally rung at the same time if its not a fake ? The big problem with these people is that they are smart enough to be trouble so why such a gift IF ITS THEM ?
Now who do we know that Specialise in fake passports? and would prefer the republicans in power ( remember the fuss over israelies using stolen identitys for murder in the gulf )

now the powers that be love to justify there controls but this time I smell a big fat hairy rat : too meny empty scares for too many years all used to justify oversize budgets and questionable actions and tactics all over the world .
This is the sort of clumbsy thinking you would expect of western idiots .

Here is the point , a stolen identity is used to mail 3 bombs at the same office at the same time to synergogs in chicago from yemen , then calls to say where they are to be found and all on the eve of an election .
Now why would so many alarm bells be intentionally rung at the same time if its not a fake ? The big problem with these people is that they are smart enough to be trouble so why such a gift IF ITS THEM ?
Now who do we know that Specialise in fake passports? and would prefer the republicans in power ( remember the fuss over israelies using stolen identitys for murder in the gulf )

now the powers that be love to justify there controls but this time I smell a big fat hairy rat : too meny empty scares for too many years all used to justify oversize budgets and questionable actions and tactics all over the world .
This is the sort of clumbsy thinking you would expect of western idiots .

After all JFK was going to keep us in Vietnam, not withdraw, he said so himself.