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Post subject: Cdn. Forces Base C.O. Serial Killer
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:16 pm
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There was a documentary on Canadian T.V. tonight about Col. Russell Williams who was the commanding officer of Canada's largest airforce base in Trenton ON.. For 3 years this monster broke into houses and started of by just stealing woman's and girl's undergarments.He would videotape and photograph himself while in these houses wearing these clothes.The behaviour escalated to sexual assaults and culminated in kidnapping,torture and murder.He was caught just by a fluke really.Anyway it's a riveting documentary and the detective doing the questioning is a real master and garnered pretty big accolades by police crime specialists that watched the interview.You can watch the whole episode at www.cbc.ca/thefifthestate it's scary how cool and composed this creep is even when he knows that they have an iron clad case against him.

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Received the message "cannot be streamed outside of Canada". Sounds like a crazy story though.

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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:54 pm
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Lets see, monster + death penalty= DONE WITH

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guitslinger wrote:
it's scary how cool and composed this creep is even when he knows that they have an iron clad case against him.


This can be a sure sign of Psychopathy, although the term is somewhat antiquated. Psychopathy is regarded as either genetically or environmentally caused, it is a disorder. Since I don't agree with death penalty anyway, in this case society would be killing a sick man.
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Post subject: Re: Cdn. Forces Base C.O. Serial Killer
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:59 am
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guitslinger wrote:
Russell Williams who was the commanding officer of Canada's largest airforce base...

My wife's uncle was a psychiatrist in the military for most of his working life. I had a conversation with him many years ago where he explained to me that sociopathy/psychopathy was antithetical to the needs of armed forces and so was efficiently weeded out by screening. He claimed that whereas sociopaths may be two percent or more of the general population they were almost unknown in the military.

Unfortunately, that appars to be wishful thinking. In many different settings in the last handful of years we've learnt that just ain't the case. Turns out, people with mad and murderous inclinations are often attracted to situations where they can kill people. Go figure...

Anyway. What I'm saying: it should not be a surprise that an apparently respectable senior airforce officer could have this behavior inside him.

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It's like pyromaniac's favourite line of work: Fire-fighter. Innit? 8)


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It's like pyromaniac's favourite line of work: Fire-fighter. Innit? 8)

I know a Thatcher who worked par-time as an arsonist.... :lol:

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Andybighair wrote:
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It's like pyromaniac's favourite line of work: Fire-fighter. Innit? 8)

I know a Thatcher who worked par-time as an arsonist.... :lol:

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I don't believe in the death penality,having said that though there are fates worse than death.I think that in place of the death penality offenders like this should be placed in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives without light or any creature comforts such as TV,radio,books etc. given the bare mininum of the same food daily just enough to sustain life and have absolutely no human contact-I'd rather be shot.

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guitslinger wrote:
I don't believe in the death penality,having said that though there are fates worse than death.I think that in place of the death penality offenders like this should be placed in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives without light or any creature comforts such as TV,radio,books etc. given the bare mininum of the same food daily just enough to sustain life and have absolutely no human contact-I'd rather be shot.


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Could you imagine being the guy that has to enforce that, day in day out? I'm pretty sure solitary confinement to that degree comes under cruel and unusual tortures. Also you will die without sunlight. It's near impossible to get enough vitamin D from suppliments. So in effect you're performing a slow execution. Not humane is it mate?

Imagine what that would do to you over time. To be the guy that has to push the plate through the slot in the door. Whilst this already crazed now desperately lonely person tries to engage you in conversation.
You'd be suffering the punishment as much as the prisoner mate. I strongly suspect it would eventually strip you of your humanity if you were the one to enforce that on a daily basis.

No easy answer mate. I'm like you I don't agree with capital punishment. No one made me god to say I can take a human life. Life is life at the end of the day no matter how much wrong it has commited. If you willfully end a life you're guilty of murder.
I've thought long and hard about it and after much introspection found I probably couldn't take a life in vengance. Thank God I've never been in a position to fully explore that scenario.

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Nevin1985 wrote:
What about medically inducing a coma and firing them into outer space in a capsule?


A death sentence aint it?

The point mentioned early that it's a illness is a valid one. No matter how disgusting abhorrent and repulsive we find the actions, their not carried out by a well minded individual.

Once we as a apparently right minded society cross that line, where do we stop?

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nikininja wrote:
guitslinger wrote:
I don't believe in the death penality,having said that though there are fates worse than death.I think that in place of the death penality offenders like this should be placed in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives without light or any creature comforts such as TV,radio,books etc. given the bare mininum of the same food daily just enough to sustain life and have absolutely no human contact-I'd rather be shot.


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Could you imagine being the guy that has to enforce that, day in day out? I'm pretty sure solitary confinement to that degree comes under cruel and unusual tortures. Also you will die without sunlight. It's near impossible to get enough vitamin D from suppliments. So in effect you're performing a slow execution. Not humane is it mate?

Imagine what that would do to you over time. To be the guy that has to push the plate through the slot in the door. Whilst this already crazed now desperately lonely person tries to engage you in conversation.
vengance..

In Maryland's Super Max prisoners are allowed out one hour a day and not with others!

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I admit my method is somewhat over the top but I still don't agree with the death penality.maybe just life with no hope of parole and Very limited privileges or creature comforts.I had someone very very close to me brutally raped and murdered in 1974 about this time of year ,when something like that happens to someone you deeply care for it really affects your perspective on the topic.After all that I still don't believe in the death penality but I know first hand the devastation these monsters cause to family members that are left with horrific memories not to mention the unimagineable pain and suffering they inflicted on their victims. It's a real dilemna some people say an eye for an eye and others have quite the opposite view then maybe the real judgement day comes for them after they leave this mortal coil.

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Inmate cost for Maryland in 2009 was 38,654.00 a year. Theres 23 counties with 29 Jails that hold 14,250 inmates and there are 11 State Prison facilities with 22,255 inmates. In 2009 Md. crime rate was %12 higher then national average and incarceration rates for crimes were %12 lower then nation average. Theres no room and cost is %26 above national average. 648 violent crimes per 100,000 and 3,518 property crimes per 100,000
Death penalty cases cost about 1.9 million per conviction. There only 5 people on death row now and the only place that pursues it against criminals is Baltimore County the largest county in the state and 3rd. most populated which also has less the %7 of the murders.

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