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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:34 pm
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Gibson has done it again with another way overpriced artist model.This time it's a John Lennon J-160-E with the vintage sunburst at $4,000,the "Imagine"-white one that never was-$8000 and the bed-in with a copy of John's portrait of him and Yoko on it for $15,000.These guys must be losing their sense of reality.As big a John Lennon fanatic I am if I had millions I wouldn't gratify them to spend such an outrageous price for that guitar.The Bed-in one comes with Yoko's autograph-which I already have with a pic of her and John at the bed-in in Montreal.So with my $500 Epi EJ-160-E John Lennon model and Yoko's autograph that cost me nothing I'm getting my John Lennon package for $14,500 less than the dumb schmuck who drops $15,000 for the Gibson ripoff.

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:38 pm
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they just keep digging their own grave...

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:52 pm
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Gibson doesn't stay around by selling high priced guitars, neither does Fender. $25,000 for a Blackie or a EVH Frankenstien? Did everyone forget that Fender has some pretty high priced guitars too?

Fend and Gibson stay around because of their production guitars, not their custom shop guitars. Every time Gibson comes out with a high priced guitar everyone call it a ripoff, Fenders Clapton's Blackie isn't a ripoff at 25 grand?

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:09 pm
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I have had one Gibson in my life...a 1980 LP Custom...never again. From my experience it was an over priced piece of junk. There were so many issues with it and it played terribly and just was such a disappointment I got rid of it. I got a Fender and never looked back. I feel that their price point just can not IMO be justified for the return on investment. Now, I know some folks love Gibbys and that is great, but the experience I had with it turned me off from them. Does it mean I would try and sway someone from getting one...no, I say try and find out for yourself...don't let my experience influence you. If I want a nice humbucker growl I just pull out my oh so sweet Gretsch..:)
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:33 pm
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You know what ? They will sell them and they know it or they would not make them! What's overpriced to some is not overpriced to others!!!! I have know problem with it and call it MAKING MONEY which is what you are supposed to do in business.
People are happy to buy a new car at 20,000 to 30,000 others go out and spend 30,000 to 50,000 then some spend more then that!!!! At what level is overpriced? Theres quality to be found in every price. It's what some one wants and are willing to spend or they wouldn't be making them. And don't forget people with means could care less about price!!!!

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one of these with that new Gibson on the passenger seat 8)

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:38 pm
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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
they just keep digging their own grave...

+1, they used to be good but now its just pathetic

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Post subject: Re: Gibson goes way overboard with new artist model.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:36 am
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Gibson has done it again with another way overpriced artist model. This time it's a John Lennon J-160-E with the vintage sunburst at $4,000.


Be sure to order two, GS!

(in case the first one wears out)

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radio_friendly_unit_shifter wrote:
Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
they just keep digging their own grave...

+1, they used to be good but now its just pathetic


And how many Gibsons have you actually played or owned for comparison LOL?
Thing is if you don't like them or can't afford them, why make ridiculous comments about them? Just sounds like sour grapes. I'd take a new Melody Maker over a Squire but that's just my taste. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Squires though. Some of the Squires are pretty sweet for the money. It's all about personal taste and how deep your pockets are.

I've played some Reverend guitars that are just incredible as well as the Eastwood Supro Dual Tone. There are plenty of guitar companies that fill a lot of gaps besides Fender and Gibson. I'm not a gear snob by any stretch of the imagination, but I have owned some nice Gibson and Fender guitars. You just have to think of how valuable some of the high end Gibsons are to you. I won't by one, but I won't say anything about the quality of an extremely expensive instrument I've never played.

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:46 pm
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And how many Gibsons have you actually played or owned for comparison LOL?
Thing is if you don't like them or can't afford them, why make ridiculous comments about them? Just sounds like sour grapes.


+1

I guess I've had close to a dozen Gibsons over the years. Some were absolute crap, but the majority of them were quality gitts. Fender's track record (with me) is substantially better but I no longer buy off-the-rack instruments so I must qualify that observation.

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:00 pm
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I don't have a quibble with Gibson building a tribute guitar what my main bone of contention is that $15,000 for what's basically a regular J-160-E with a picture copied on it is exorbitant when you can buy a vintage '62 just like John's and George's originals for about $5000. For $15,000 I could buy 1 each like John's and George's and have enough left over to buy a '64 Epiphone Texan like Paul's.I don't think that the labour involved in making the tribute justifies the high price not like the '65 Epi John Lennon Casinos that were a bargain at around $2,600.

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:11 pm
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guitslinger wrote:
I don't think that the labour involved in making the tribute justifies the high price.


Free-market forces will ultimately make that determination, GS.

But you're otherwise right IMO -- I'd prefer a stock J-160E over some over-hyped LE artist's model. I always liked that scene in "Help" where John is playing his in the flat.

"It's a rel-ah-tiv-it-y con-den-zah......!"

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How about 25 grand for a Clapton Blackie? They bolted that one together LOL.
Everybody has some garbage in their line. Fender included. I had a Tele Thineline that was a total POS. They can decide to charge what they want, and we can decide not to buy it.

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63supro wrote:
How about 25 grand for a Clapton Blackie? They bolted that one together LOL.
Everybody has some garbage in their line. Fender included. I had a Tele Thineline that was a total POS. They can decide to charge what they want, and we can decide not to buy it.


FWIW -- People forget that "Blackie" was bought at auction by Guitar Center, Inc. They commissioned Fender to produce a factory special run probably to recoup some of the money they dropped on the original so it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.


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63supro wrote:
How about 25 grand for a Clapton Blackie? They bolted that one together LOL.
Everybody has some garbage in their line. Fender included. I had a Tele Thineline that was a total POS. They can decide to charge what they want, and we can decide not to buy it.


FWIW -- People forget that "Blackie" was bought at auction by Guitar Center, Inc. They commissioned Fender to produce a factory special run probably to recoup some of the money they dropped on the original so it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.


Sure it is. Fender has lots of overpriced tribute and signature guitars. Van Halen's Frankenstein Strat is another fine example. These companies can charge what they want. I wouldn't but anyone's signature guitar except a Les Paul. Some of Fender's signature guitars are laughable. Limited editions are a joke too. A good guitar is a good guitar. Doesn't matter who's name's on it. It's up to the consumer to decide if it's worth it or not. IMO just about ALL sig and tribute guitars are over priced. Today any assclown who sells a bunch of CD's gets one whether they make a serious contribution to music community or not. It's all about sales.

"Blackie" was supposed to be a fund raiser for Clapton's rehab center in Antigua. I called GC to see how much of the money was going to the center and no one could tell me. Couldn't tell me if it was a tax deductible contribution either. :?

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