yup... the 300 lb freshman thats a linebacker on the JV football team is a good friend to have

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a great man once said: "The telecaster makes a great club."

i believe it was Keith Richards.

DON'T PUNCH HIM IN THE TEMPLE!!!

My dad's a doc, and one day these two kids got in a fight in the waiting room, one got a shot to the temple bad and it ceased blood flow to his brain, killing him.

Dude I wouldn't go looking for a fight, like you I'm skinny as a pineneedle but just stick up for yourself. Get other people involved too.

For example, there's this 6ft, 5in 250lb linebacker(probably on some growth hormones) who wants to be the crap out of me because I smarted off to him when he called me a "child" (I turn 18 next week and he's only a junior), but he doesn't mess with me because I informed my dad and we know the school board really well...
The threat of instant expulsion keeps him at bay, or at least for now.

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& dude, If I could fly out there I would back you up to the end...

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Hi there.

bully's, in any country can be difficult to deal with.

Padlock....Is that what we would call a headlock in the states?

Just trying to get a clear picture here, so here is some advice.

1) Do not be the aggressor, the one that throws the first punch will be the one that get in trouble, violence should only be used in self defense and as a last option.

2) If he is putting you in a headlock, that is not Okay, use your free hand (the one away from him) and has hard as you can, punch him in the nut sack, then grab them and crush them like walnuts.
If you do this you must do it full force with no mercy.
Do it right and he will not be able to retaliate, and unless he is a moron, he will never do that again.

3) If he shoves you, walk away. If at school, report him to the teachers, if away from school, just leave the area, and file a police report.
If he will not let you leave, and you have no choice then to fight, then you must fight to win.
If he goes to through a round house punch, step in and with a short punch just below the ribcage to knock the wind out of him, then wrap your arms around him to tie him up (Like they do in boxing) with your arms around him, he can not get a hard swing at you, must likely you will both be on the ground, not slip your thumbs up into his armpits and jam them into the arm sockets.
This will convince him to let go, and do a push up and let your self fall back on top of him while you throw a short strait shot to the chin.

You are not going to knock this dude out with a single punch, what you want to do is not kill him, your goal is to inflict pain so win loose of draw, he will not want a part of you ever again.

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Riley, your boy Jake is not helping by bringing someone around that doesn't treat you like a friend. That said, you are in a rural area so you want to hang when the opportunity comes. Maybe not with those fellows anymore. You are important to a lot of humans Bro. Your family at home, your family here and I'm sure that you have some others near you to hang with, if not, this is a good time to make some new friends. I can't come there to side you, ten fifty six (means I'm sorry). I want you to defend yourself but I don't want you fighting thoughtless people for free either. Remember that you are a guitarist and not a prize fighter. You hurt your hands, you lose, you damage that guy you lose (bullies cry the loudest and always blame you for hurting them even though they started the problem), you get hurt we all lose and I can tell you the Forum will NOT be cool with that. I have all of the scars and police reports of mistakes that I made by not walking away, so, from experience I am saying walk away from this one if possible. Your true friend will come around again when he realizes that you aren't kidding about not hanging with that other guy.

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+1 here.

Violence should always be last resort. Drawing the first punch may make you a hero but more likely people will look at you like a nutter.

Punching someone on the head or throat can cause death. My Muay Thai teacher tought us some useful things to cause a lot of pain. Some of them are already here , like striking the solar plexus, and striking his balls if he has you in a headlock (use open palm to be sure to hit the junk, + it helps to strike and crap in one motion) also kicking with your shin to a large muscle like leg muscle causes some pain and gives you a) a time to walk away or b) improve your position.

I don't know how the laws are there down under, but here if you kick and/or punch someone while he is down is considered an assault, even if the other one assaulted you first, so take it ease if he is on the ground.

But most important of all is to try to avoid conflict. Even though my Muay Thai teacher tought us cause some damage he always said that: Number 1. 2 and 3 is to walk away. If that doesn't work run away. If that doesn't work, try to talk your way out of it, don't get aggressive just try to calm things down. If that doesn't work call for help (if possible). If you don't have any other options, you have the right to kick some behind, IMO.

If Jake is a true friend he will walk away with you.

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riley, you wanted advice and you got it. i can only speak for myself but i am a bit worried about you little bro. i've never met you but i like you just the same. i like several responses i've read, especially rhumba's.
just think about it and do what you feel is right. life is going to be full of situations like this. handle it the way you feel is best.

nut shots are cheap and cowardly.

Riley it sounds like these boys arn't worth a second out of your day. If Jake was a true friend to you he wouldn't bring Aaron around and would understand that he is not treating you right.

Also, avoid fighting unless it REALLY REALLY comes to it. Fighting in my opinion won't solve anything, especially like you said, if your smaller in size. just stop hanging out with Jake, he apparently isn't a good friend. There are alot better people out there for you man!

this is what i mean.... he FIGHTING the kid... why the hell should he care about what this supposed "unwritten code of male fighting honor", or whatever you want to call this asinine idea of honor in violence, says is cheap... getting called a coward by someone you hate > getting the unholy s**t beat out of you

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he shouldnt even fight him in the first place. Wasting his time with this boy and his "friend" is pointless. I have seen alot of larger boys get up from being hit below the belt and tear up the person that them there. Or maybe they were women because it odly didnt seem to hurt that bad.... but anyways...

Riley just walk away, there is obviously better friends for you out there bud.

Tanner you're a young guy yourself. So here goes mate. When you fight, anything that wins is ok, pull hair, slap, scratch, blind. End of story. Sometimes it's inevitable and needed. Queensbury rules is a nonsense that will get you seriously hurt. Any respect between fighters disappeared years ago. Mainly because people only fight when their scared. They can't run so they fight. In that instance you have a person that will do almost anything to provide a chance where they can rely on flight rather than fight.
I honestly find the whole attitude of defence only, only a last resort a bit outlandish. Is the world really like that? Mine isn't. Sometimes violence is the best, easiest and quickest solution.

If some guy you know has a problem with you, so much as looks at you funny, level him before he has chance to even think about raising a fist.
Best defence I can think of, aside from not being anywhere near the person. Even then when dealing with bullies, their looking for you and will eventually go out there way to get you until you do deal with em.

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No no and no

ok heres what i'm doing; i told jake last night via text that i'm not hanging with around with a guy that treats me like a skunk. he tryed to persuade me anyway, saying that he'll make sure he doesn't do that stuff if you dont hesitate etc. i'm not going anyway even i told him i am, just to get him off my back, but they'll most likely come to my house then. if they do that, i just wont answer the door and say via text to jake about half an hour after they come to my place, "again, i'm not hanging with some arsehole who treats me like a neglected dog, its not that i'm afraid of him, its that he keeps being an $@!&#*% to me".

thats the best thing to do IMO anyways, thanks for all your advice, i'll probably ending up ditching both of em and they'll make me feel like the guilty one

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Riley don't hide behind a text message mate. Next time they come round answer the door and tell em you don't want to know em.

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No no and no

i'm a whimp i know, lol, it sounds easier than it is trust me, i've been friends with jake for like 4 years, ditching thems gonna be harder than saying, "hi, i'm ditching you" to their face

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