sorry this is off topic, but i really need some advice ASAP and you guys are really the only people i can ask.

ok so, one of my only friends (jake) has became friends with this dude (aaron) about half a year ago. i was cool with it then, but when i got to know him, he's a totall arsehole to me. so jake hasn't been bringing him to hang around with us out of school when i'm around, atleast not until about a week ago. now jake's bringing him along whenever we hang out. i really dont like that guy. for example, yesterday he threw my bike into a paddock for no reason. he always calls me names and throws stuff at me, which i swear if he pisses me off again i'm gonna crack it. its just that i dont know how to tell jake not to bring him along whenever i'm around. any suggestions? dont take this in the wrong way, i just need to somehow tell jake that i hate aaron without making him get pissed off.

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riley

i'll tell him to stop the crap he's doing, but he's very very agresive if i use punch him or something he'll beat me so badly, yes i know i'm a twig i cant fight for crap and i dont like it.

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riley

Don't bother telling him anything, next time he does something just belt him.

You're wasting your time making threats or having a word with him. All you're doing by doing that, is telling him you don't want him to do these things to you.
Well he already knows that. Thats why he does em.
Just bide your time and next time he does something like that, go to town on him.
You'll end up in a scrap, probably end up getting hurt too. The nonsense will stop afterwards though.

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No no and no

i understand about not wanting to fight. it should be avoided if possible. but, if this guy keeps it up, do what you gotta do. don't give him any more warnings, just do it. knuckles to the nose. your actions might help someone else this dillhole is messing with.

I agree with jeebus dude.
If you take that path, remember that you'll probably only have one punch, so don't make it half hearted.

or make it so good you get a 2nd and 3rd.

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No no and no

Yeah, try to avoid fighting if you can but if you have to you'll probably only get one meaningful punch like Ray_tard said so choose your target wisely.... a right hook or cross to the temple is always a good bet, will shock the major blood vessel going to the brain and will knock him out temporarily if you hit dead on giving you time to leave the danger zone, the base of the sternum is also good, it will push it in and knock the wind out of him because it's a shock to the lungs and diaphram, there's also the throat... it hurts like hell and he'll have trouble breathing for a bit and lastly, there's a kick to the knee (either a straight on stomp or a hard swipe to the side) will either hurt like hell, hyper-extend and hurt like hell or tear ligaments and hurt like hell but he won't be able to chase you down

Remember that these are all last ditch things though.... talking it out is also the best way because more often than not nobody gets hurt... oh, and don't let him punk ya, if he does remember the target areas.....

And if you do hit him, apologize afterwards and tell him he left you no choice so you don't look like a bully either... or don't apologize, may make you look like a bad $@!

Well, that's my 22 years of knowledge and my 2 cents worth... I know it ain't much but either way, good luck

Treat the cause and not the symptom.

I can understand not wanting to fight but there's a limit to the amount of crap someone should have to take.

Most bullies are cowards and when they are stood up to, they usually back right down and find a new 'respect' for the person who stood up to them; you just cannot show any fear.

If you have to fight, well, others here have given you enough advice.

On a side note, I'd ask Jake why he brings this guy around, knowing he is abusive to you and depending on his answer, you may find that Jake is no more of a friend than Aaron.

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You dig?

The same thing happened to me once, but I waited untill there were heaps of people around. I was at school, this happened during a basketball game. The guy smacked me across my head, and took my cap. I asked him why he did that, he just shoved me. This got attention, so I then went in for the punch & I tried to get him. Punching this fat moron in the guts didnt work as he was a good foot and a half taller than me & almost perfectly round, so I swung and got him in the jaw real good that it made him tear. That was all I had to do- the rest of the class gathered around him, started yelling at him and asking him "why did you do that for?"I did nothing after that, the bully didnt throw a single punch after I initially hit him. He was shocked at my retaliation and the embarrasment caused him to cry and run home from school early.

Hell, even the teacher got in the circle of abuse that gathered around him. I would've usually got a weeks worth of after school detentions, possibly with suspension... yet I walked away scot free with the awe & respect of my class mates all because I took a stand against a big fat idiot who thought he ruled the roost.

My advice, pick your punch spots carefully- it doesnt matter how small you are mate. 3 punches should be the maximum number you should stun him with and make sure you do it in front of people who can see exactly why you do it. Go for the groin then the jaw and that should do it. If you do it in front of the girlys mate- well, you wont have any problems getting girls till at least christmas mate

I dont condone violence, I do encourage standing up to bullies tho. If not you, he will get someone else. Bring back the biff is all I can say.

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To answer your question, you probably can't tell him you hate Aaron without pissing him off, so just do it. If he accepts it and quits bringing him over, end of problem, but Jake may also quit coming over. Which isn't a bad thing. Jake watches Aaron do all these things to you and says nothing. If you tell him and he ignores it, then you'll have to fight Aaron. If other guys see Aaron bullying you and getting away with it, some of them will start bullying you also.

I don't condone fighting but if inevitable and someone pushes you then you have to ,especially if they push you because they done laid hands on you. Plus don't short change your self I know some little dudes that can handle themselves.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Don't hit him in the throat. It's a easy way to kill someone when you know what you're doing. Crush the windpipe and the guys gonna suffocate. When you don't know what you're doing it's down to chance. Not a chance I'd want to take. It could do nothing, it could kill the kid. It's got nothing to do with strength and everything to do with getting the right spot. That is not something you want to live with. Just hit the pratt in the mouth, don't be suprised if your hand hurts as much as his jaw.

Reading Martian's comment, I'd have to agree with where he's going. It looks to me like Jake is taking Aaron round to you for laughs. Ditch the pair of em.

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This is an extremely important point.

In situations like this, the less crap you take from people and they know it, the less they're apt to give you.

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You dig?

ok heres the deal bro.
jake dont give two craps about you as a friend, cant you see that?
if he did he wouldnt allow his new buddy to bully you.
you gotta see that and accept it for what it is.
go take some fighting classes bro.
get you a good quality can of pepper spray. next time ole boy does his usual spray him down good. when he hits the ground you go to work on that s.o.b like theres no tomorrow. that lower rib cage and kidney area will be open like church doors on a sunday morning.
a few blows to the lower ribs and several knees to the kidneys
will bring that little $@!&# under submission real fast.
dont forget to split that nose open like a stuffed shrimp while your at it.
then you grab him by the hair of the head, bring him in real close and then you tell him the law, the way its gonna be. DONT allow folks to run over you like hes doing. once they do it they never stop.
they will use you as an example to others because its so easy to do.
stand up for yourself bro, nobody else is gonna do it for you.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Stand up to him Riley bro.

Next time he does anything give him what for. A good dig in the jaw will sort it quickly. As has been said before bullies are cowards and they pick on people they think wont do anything back. Its how they feel superior and its pathetic.

Give him a taste of his own medicine. Throw HIM in the paddock!

CC

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