Which one?

Tell that to all the non believers that have used the courts to force there personal believes of religion on the majority, seems they have been pretty vocal them selfs. So you are way off saying something like quote "while those that dont believe feel no need to vocalize the fact that they dont." Many have been fighting religion in society at every turn they can. Manly Christianity while turning a blind eye to others, Muslim and such.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

Yes

how very interesting

Men I hate some of those "religious" brothers of mine. In a way I agree with them, I want to be sure that I can sent my (unborn) children to school without religion being forced down their throat, I believe that whether a child should be brought up in a religion or not is their parents responsibility and the goverment shouldn't touch that (especially in countries where the freedom of religion is constitutional). But cleansing the sociaty of everything connected to religion is unrealistic, we would lose to much culture.

Again I am not trying to start a flame war, these are my Personal believes and I hope that y'all can respect that as I respect yours.

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Deyr fé
Deyja frændr
Deyr sjálfr ið sama
En orðstír
Deyr aldregi
Hveim er sér góðan getr

I don't believe in God.

Ooooo - I want a fight!

I'm not bashful about stating my position. Amongst my immediate family are Quakers, high and low Anglican, Catholics, atheists, militant agnostics and Methodists. Other things by marriage including Danish Lutherans, Jews and Buddhists. Some other great religions notably missing from that list: we're working on it.

I am... one of the above.

Now. Someone pick a row with me about it!

Cheers - C

I think rather than picking a fight with you, you should stir up trouble and get the Quakers in your family to disown the Methodists.
Foxites vs Wesleyists.

I think this could be good telly.
Get a timemachine. Kidnap the founder of every religeon and sect in the world. Get them to battle it out on tv.
Obviously you'd have to put a bit of thought in to pair the competitors up fairly. It wouldn't be any use having a complete pacifist Hindu fighting say a Sikh with a big knife. You'd need some Buddhist Shaolin master to take on a Musilm extreminst, or a member of the Spanish Inquisition. Or even one of those Pagans that sacrificed kids against a Moses and Arron tag team. The possibilities are endless.
Yep I reckon it could even make the 2012 olypics.

Now that I've probably offended every deity out there, I'm going to concentrate on insulating my house (in Quaker country) from thunderbolts.

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No no and no

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!


-Nutter

Try getting up at a Quaker service and yelling "fight"!!! It would be like punching a room full of goose feathers.

And on paganism: I heard a nice line a couple of days ago. A pagan attending some kind of off-beat religious event at Stonehenge remarked that he'd found the secret of life written on the side of a bottle of household bleach: "Stand upright in a cool place."

That's going to be my philosophy from this point on.

Cheers - C

ROFL

I think it is less about me believing in God and more about God believing in me......

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I Can't Explain

Yes ................ Mike

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The blues ain't nothin but a good man feelin bad.

And people have to remember there is nothing in the Constitution that says "Separation of Church and State" so many think that is written in there when it is not. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ." In my opinion the meaning of SEPARATION and ESTABLISHMENT have two different meanings anyway. The Supreme Court in 1947 used a letter written by Jefferson to Baptist in early 1800's who wanted the Government to not have any doings with Baptist Religion in England and America it was his way of stating that the Government would not regulate them or change there practice. They where worried that Connecticut could establish a Religion.
Recent courts have change the whole meaning of the original statement in the Constitution because of that letter to the Danbury Baptist.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson