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Do you believe in God?
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Uh Ceri, have to disappoint you on that. Way to high for my skill set. :(
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I'm not sure, I feel so insecure... never done that before!

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way cool jr wrote:
...and when you leave his cave, make sure you scrub your feet well.
dont track his filth back out into the rest of the world.

oh and to address someone or refer to someone as "MR", is also a term of respect, or to show one is married. so im guessing you have respect for the man??

not at all, and i was hoping you would get the light hearted tone it was intended to have (something which can be a bit hard to convey through text).

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No worries mate, all is cool this end. I do stay vigilant on this kind of subject as it can escalate quickly. This kind of discussion is very useful for just bringing a bit of understanding about each other to each other, when you can keep a level head. That is always useful, no matter what any of us believe.

My very basic understanding of Islam is that it incorporates both Judaism and Christianity to some degree. It came about 600 years after Christianity.

My thinking on it is, why would a all seeing, all knowing, all powerful God decide that what he did previously was not enough. Did said deity make a mistake previously? Did he make it too hard or easy?
Dunno about you but I couldn't believe in a creator that makes those kinds of mistakes. It would prove that the deity is completely fallible, just like the rest of us. Or do they believe that the previous belief systems that they have based their own faith on is false? Why build on a falsity.

You could say the same about the Church of the Latter Day Saints, or Mormons as their otherwise known. Why 1830 years after executing a perfect plan would God decide to send a angel to Joseph Smith and tell him to change a load of stuff. Did God get it wrong the first time and need to improve?

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nikininja wrote:
... Why 1830 years after executing a perfect plan would God decide to send a angel to Joseph Smith and tell him to change a load of stuff. Did God get it wrong the first time and need to improve?

I think the answer there is God has sent prophets previously, and ... in their religeon ... this was yet another prophet from God. Don't get me wrong as I agree with where you are coming from. But I think that would be their argument (not mine)...

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there have been no other prophets. Jesus was the last messenger from God and he brought us the last message we would need. everything since has been false, brought about for reasons that have nothing to do with good or God, unfortunately as there are billions of people misguided by people posing as Holy men who themselves are puppets of the people in power in those areas of the world.

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there have been no other prophets. Jesus was the last messenger from God and he brought us the last message we would need.


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That is quite a compelling argument. One I haven't heard before. I'll have to have a ponder on that one.

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nikininja wrote:
My thinking on it is, why would a all seeing, all knowing, all powerful God decide that what he did previously was not enough. Did said deity make a mistake previously? Did he make it too hard or easy?
Dunno about you but I couldn't believe in a creator that makes those kinds of mistakes. It would prove that the deity is completely fallible, just like the rest of us. Or do they believe that the previous belief systems that they have based their own faith on is false? Why build on a falsity.

So if this creator is perfect then we should all only accept the first monotheistic religion, which is Judaism :) I mean why is it ok for Christianity or Islam to come after the "original" and be accepted by so many? Perhaps He's not perfect, or we can go back to what I was saying before, that all religions are man-made.


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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
...and when you leave his cave, make sure you scrub your feet well.
dont track his filth back out into the rest of the world.

oh and to address someone or refer to someone as "MR", is also a term of respect, or to show one is married. so im guessing you have respect for the man??

not at all, and i was hoping you would get the light hearted tone it was intended to have (something which can be a bit hard to convey through text).


i caught it floyd and tried to send it in return.
the net can read kinda funny at times ya know. :wink:

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I am a believer, too. Your decision to believe or not is between you and God. But for me, I consider everything worthless compared to the the greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Z9D5cdccg&feature=related



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please excuse our friends here,we welcome to the fender forum.
i see out of all the topics you chose to make your first post on this thread.
thank you and it does say alot about you.
this is not the usual post on this forum but a side step from the norm.

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i caught it floyd and tried to send it in return.
the net can read kinda funny at times ya know. :wink:

Funny how?? :D


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misunderstandings in text silly. :wink:

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Funny how??

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nikininja wrote:
My thinking on it is, why would a all seeing, all knowing, all powerful God decide that what he did previously was not enough. Did said deity make a mistake previously? Did he make it too hard or easy?
Dunno about you but I couldn't believe in a creator that makes those kinds of mistakes. It would prove that the deity is completely fallible, just like the rest of us. Or do they believe that the previous belief systems that they have based their own faith on is false? Why build on a falsity.

So if this creator is perfect then we should all only accept the first monotheistic religion, which is Judaism :) I mean why is it ok for Christianity or Islam to come after the "original" and be accepted by so many? Perhaps He's not perfect, or we can go back to what I was saying before, that all religions are man-made.

he is perfect... the reason we should not all accept Judaism (i TRIED to think of a better way to say that...) is because Christ fulfilled the promises and beliefs taught by Judaism... in other words Christ is God's end of "the Covenant" between him and Avram/Avraham

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I see, yet the Jewish people did not accept him as the Messiah and are still waiting for someone to show up. And so the world waits again... maybe our generation will be lucky enough to meet whoever shows up, it's in 2012 no? :wink:


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nikininja wrote:
My thinking on it is, why would a all seeing, all knowing, all powerful God decide that what he did previously was not enough. Did said deity make a mistake previously? Did he make it too hard or easy?
Dunno about you but I couldn't believe in a creator that makes those kinds of mistakes. It would prove that the deity is completely fallible, just like the rest of us. Or do they believe that the previous belief systems that they have based their own faith on is false? Why build on a falsity.

So if this creator is perfect then we should all only accept the first monotheistic religion, which is Judaism :) I mean why is it ok for Christianity or Islam to come after the "original" and be accepted by so many? Perhaps He's not perfect, or we can go back to what I was saying before, that all religions are man-made.


If God is not perfect then creation wouldn't have happened. Or if God is just like all of us lot, then why aren't we out creating universes? Were made in his image after all. The chaos theory that we do make minute universes like gods is a nonsense. Were certainly not aware of them if we do, like God is aware of His creation.
At fear of risking offending Jewish readers. Christ's sacrifice was the fulfilment of the old Testement, Pentatuch, Prophetic and Wisdom writings. All of the Judaic faith is based on the coming of a Messiah. It was told of right from before the time of Abraham, right through the time of Moses and well into the invasion of Alexander the great (2/300 bc'ish). In accepting Christ I believe you are accepting Judaism too, or more accurately the culmination of Judaism.

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