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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:53 pm
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I started on guitar but never liked Hendrix. I think he was over rated. Maybe its because I was into Clapton, and many others before I started listening to Hendrix. I think most of what he did was noise and lets face it, he couldn't sing.


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any estimate of how many burnt or smashed guitars from hendrix are out there?


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I started on guitar but never liked Hendrix. I think he was over rated. Maybe its because I was into Clapton, and many others before I started listening to Hendrix. I think most of what he did was noise and lets face it, he couldn't sing.


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ok maybe his singing wasnt the best but he wrote some great songs.
you said you "listened to hendrix".
one doesnt "listen to hendrix",
one HEAR'S hendrix, you feel hendrix, you dont listen...........

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Right on Way Cool,Jimi hated his voice and was very selfconscious about it so much so that when he was recording his vocal tracks he didn't want anyone looking at him so he usually did them in an isolation booth.In the meantime I think he had the only voice that was perfectly suited for his music.As for his music being noise that's a completely assinine statemant how can something as beautiful as Little Wing ,Angel,One Rainy Wish, 1983 A Merman I Should Turn To Be,Drifting,May this Be Love and God knows how many more of his songs be in any stretch regarded as noise. Granted Jimi did make use of massive volume and gain at times but they were used to convey the message of the song.After all what would Foxey Lady and Purple Haze sound like just lightly strummed an acoustic guitar? These songs evoked passion and hence were played passionately. The Star Spangled Banner and Machine Gun are regarded by almost all credible musicians as the epitome of live musical performance with the effects he created in the anti Vietnam War Machine Gun you can hear jets screaming in over the Mai Cong Delta and hear the wind blowing through the napalm devastated wastelands the same goes for the Star Spangled Banner.Jimi's wonderful unorthodox approach to the guitar turned guitar playing off on a completely new tangent and when guys like Clapton,Beck,Healy,Page etc. hail him as the greatest guitarist that ever lived I'm more inclined to side with them.

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jimi used his hands to talk, which is a common goal of guitarist everywhere. shame as it is, theres a short list of players that ever really reach that level of playing, freddy king, jimi, eddie VH, steve vai, SRV, just to name a few. dont get mewrong, theres many of sweet players out there, clapton, cray, beck, BB, albert, that can really play a guitfiddle, but they didnt get but within arms reach of that level. there are players and then there are communicators, jimi has something to say.
i dont knock the OP by any means. so many people listened to jimi, still just listening.
it takes a careful ear to hear jimi. it was almost subliminal in a way.
honestly, its an aquired type of thing. i listened to jimi for yrs on end before i finally got it. it just hits you. it sneaks up on you when you least
expect it and hits you so hard where it hurts, where it tastes, where it feels. you will know when it does, you will find yourself rewinding song after song one day, re listening and finally hearing the song for the first time though youve played it time and again.
now that i hear jimi, man i wish i could go back and hear him in
record, on 45, just to hear that crackle and pop again, the way jimi was ment to be heard. sure CDs and mp3 really give ya some clear crisp sounds to listen to, really bringing out things you didnt notice before.
strange thought just passed, i wonder if thats a reason why so many today dont hear jimi? or, or maybe thats not it at all, maybe, just maybe jimi
wasnt talking to them?

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way cool jr wrote:
the zappa strat he bought at a very large sum.


No he didn't, I saw an interview with Dweezil and he said he found it under the stairs at his fathers house.

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correct you are. i just saw the same thing you did.

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any estimate of how many burnt or smashed guitars from hendrix are out there?
Not many,the ones mentioned here are the best known,and may be the only ones.After he made it big he was watched like a hawk and any performance where he smashed or burned a guitar will be documented...after all,he wasn't one to continue doing something like that...he had too much to show in other ways.


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Where did Dweezil get it...

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Yeah,some people just don't get Hendrix....especially nowadays,but you just had to be there in the '60s and heard him for the first time,when the music was new,groundbreaking,and sounds that you didn't know were possible on a guitar were pulled out of the air,by a guy who looked and talked like he was from another planet.
Even well established musicians who were living and breathing improvisational music were in awe of some of his music.
Somebody asked Miles Davis what he thought was new improv masterpieces like his "Kind of Blue"....he said "Machine Gun".


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Had Jimi lived I could see him teaming up with Mile Davis on a project. Imagine what both of these improvisational geniuses could have created when they put their heads together.

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Ceri wrote:
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i wonder if a pic can be found of it? (hint hint ceri)

Oh OK. :lol:

Here's Dweezil playing the Zappa-Hendrix Strat which he rebuilt for a second time (gold hardware and a reverse headstock? Hmmm...)

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Here's a page about the Zappa-Hendrix guitar:

http://www.feelnumb.com/?p=2409

This suggests it was burnt at a show in Miami in 1968 and was given to Zappa by a roadie of Jimi's who'd stayed at Frank's house. It also says Dweezil failed to sell it in 2002 - but I have a foggy memory it has since indeed been sold. Is that right?

I think the Monterey burnt Strat was smashed to small pieces, wasn't it? I believe there's parts of it owned here and there, but that explains why it isn't the one Zappa had - which is what often causes confusion.

And here's the one from the Astoria in London. A 1965 Strat, burned in 1967:

I remember that at the time of the auction there was some talk from the guitar detectives here over the fact that it is strung left-handed but the saddles are arranged for a right-handed player. All kinds of dark conspiracy theories were concocted around that, but the real explanation was more banal...

Cheers - C


A piece of the Strat used at Monterey is shown in the "Stratocaster Chronicles" on page 129.

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tyronne wrote:
A piece of the Strat used at Monterey is shown in the "Stratocaster Chronicles" on page 129.

Hi tyronne: I'm just too lazy to walk up stairs and look in the book. ( :lol: ) Is it this piece, by any chance?

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Hi Ceri,
Yes that's the pic.
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tyronne wrote:
Hi Ceri,
Yes that's the pic.
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Uh-hu? Then it looks like someone needs Chet to explain the toothpick method for repairing a loose strap button. I wouldn't want to use that guitar till the button is fixed. No knowing what damage might be done, else...

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