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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:40 pm
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ok guys those that have experience with them, what are some of the pros/cons of a noisegate pedal on your board?
any tone robbing happening?

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:36 pm
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I have owned two; both were extremely transparent (no noticable change in tone).

The Rocktron HUSH pedal (my first one) was good, but the guy who designed it now works for ISP, and has taken it a step further in the ISP Decimator G-String.

The Decimator G-Stringdoesn't effect the sustain as badly as the HUSH did, unless you really crank it all the way up...and although it is made for use in an effects loop, there is a way to get around that...just call the company and they'll tell you how. My amp doesn't have an effects loop, but it works great.

Either one are good, but the ISP is really better, IMHO.

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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:55 pm
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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
the guy who designed it now works for ISP, and has taken it a step further in the ISP Decimator G-String.


that would be bob bradshaw. back in the 80s he was a big name.
i had some custom stuff designed by him. that guy knows what hes doing too. hes behind the curtin on a lot of stuff.

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In this opinion, the one on the old Cyber-Twin tends to "hobble" or "muzzle" the sound somewhat.

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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:02 am
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JSJH wrote:
In this opinion, the one on the old Cyber-Twin tends to "hobble" or "muzzle" the sound somewhat.

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IMHO, everything about the Cyber-Twin is wrong; just too digital and fake-sounding. I had such high hopes before I tried one, and I walked away VERY disappointed...maybe it was just first impressions and I need to try it again?

As far as "not needing a noise gate", I run quite a few pedals on my board (though not all at once, I just like to have a bunch of textures and colors to add as I see fit) and just the presence of some of the vintage pedals & patch cables in the signal chain can add some noise. Add single coils to the mix, and a noise gate becomes a necessity.

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MXR micro amp? ive never seen that pedal before?

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way cool jr wrote:
MXR micro amp? ive never seen that pedal before?


The way I have it set up, it is basically a volume boost.
It doesn't really color the tone, and contrary to what the knob says, it doesn't add gain the way I have it configured. If you put it before your overdrive/distortion/fuzz, etc it can add a bit of an electronic "slam" that will add gain, but if you put it at the end of the signal chain, it just adds volume and punchiness.
I use it most of the time, just putting my toe on the knob and going upward during solos, it sounds great--little or no noise, just more of what goes into it!

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Armadillo, the C-T works okay here, as does an L6 Vetta modeling amp...

...because this picker does not have the excellent "dog ears" which some folks really hip with pure tone, do really hear.

Talking with and reading about folks who can really hear small increments of purity and complexity in amp tone are envied by this picker. And looked at with amazement.

No hearing problems per se, but no huge perception of truly outstanding amps' tiny increments of discernable difference, over merely good ones, either.

'Kind of think of having accepted the audio-handicap condition as "lite" colour-blindness in hearing. Oh, well.


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Screamin' Armadillo wrote:
way cool jr wrote:
MXR micro amp? ive never seen that pedal before?


The way I have it set up, it is basically a volume boost.
It doesn't really color the tone, and contrary to what the knob says, it doesn't add gain the way I have it configured. If you put it before your overdrive/distortion/fuzz, etc it can add a bit of an electronic "slam" that will add gain, but if you put it at the end of the signal chain, it just adds volume and punchiness.
I use it most of the time, just putting my toe on the knob and going upward during solos, it sounds great--little or no noise, just more of what goes into it!



yeah im thinking im gonna need one very soon.
my board is getting bigger and im using single coils mostly these days.

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JSJH wrote:
Armadillo, the C-T works okay here, as does an L6 Vetta modeling amp...

...because this picker does not have the excellent "dog ears" which some folks really hip with pure tone, do really hear.

Talking with and reading about folks who can really hear small increments of purity and complexity in amp tone are envied by this picker. And looked at with amazement.

No hearing problems per se, but no huge perception of truly outstanding amps' tiny increments of discernable difference, over merely good ones, either.

'Kind of think of having accepted the audio-handicap condition as "lite" colour-blindness in hearing. Oh, well.


Having "dog ears" :lol: 8) isn't always a blessing; sometimes I just can't get past a particular overtone or frequency that drives me nuts (but I rarely howl about it :lol: )...I like Van Halen, but I have to eq the crud out of their discs because Alex rides on a cymbal that sends me up the wall (like nails on a chalkboard).
I would like to check the C-T again, but the two experiences I had with them (once in a store and once at a multi-band jam) didn't turn me on...but maybe I'm wrong; we'll see!

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