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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:35 pm
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Personally, most playing is guitar, cord, amp.

Sometimes add or flavour with a bit of this or that, because the L6 Vetta and Fender Cyber Twin have "this and that" available as a dial-in.

But in the words of those great American 20th century philosophers, Fleetwood Mac...

..."You got to go your own way."


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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:17 pm
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kcfireball wrote:
so are you giging?


No, nor yet Ive only been playing about two years, but my buddy Jayro (and fellow Fender forumite) are starting to get kind of tight. You never know.

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:41 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
If I was willing to pony up the mega-bucks to have the Custom Shop build me a guitar to my stringent specs I would.

But I'm not. I'm too cheap and I have too many other interests that require substantial investment.

:mrgreen:

So I've done the next logical thing......I've become my own "custom shop".

If that gives somebody heartburn, too fooking bad. Chug a bottle of Pepto and get over it.

Arjay


arjay
i like your replies when theres a little heat on the surface.
good job.
i tend to agree with arjay. every so often i buy a guitar because i like that guitar. then theres times i buy guitars because they are rare or hard to find. then, then there are those i buy to use as a foundation to build something im looking for. yeah i swap things and add things to create what i want for the moment. i just bought a highway1 just for that purpose
and will be buying a 60's classic vibe for another project.
both great guitars as they come but both also very nice foundations for
projects. yeah i have a huge pedalboard. do i have everything on at once,
of course not. i have the tools i need on hand to get jobs done, kinda like a well stocked tool box. w/o the proper tools you wont get many things built. sure theres guys that like a guitar, a cord, and a amp and thats their rig. theres others that like to expand and use whats out there to build and
construct many different things none being the same.
thing is, with guitar and amp alone, you will soon find your limitations
in tone.

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:07 pm
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with guitar and amp alone, you will soon find your limitations
in tone.

never have and never will and if you have you need to re-think how you get your tone in the first place.there is nothing wrong with Pedals but if that is the only way to get your sound,What I mean to say is your guitar and amp is your tone/sound man and all the rest is just add on,you know-candy. :wink:


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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:09 pm
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way cool jr wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
If I was willing to pony up the mega-bucks to have the Custom Shop build me a guitar to my stringent specs I would.

But I'm not. I'm too cheap and I have too many other interests that require substantial investment.

:mrgreen:

So I've done the next logical thing......I've become my own "custom shop".

If that gives somebody heartburn, too fooking bad. Chug a bottle of Pepto and get over it.

Arjay


arjay
i like your replies when theres a little heat on the surface.
good job.


Thanks, WCJ.

Not that I'm pooh-poohing anyone who plays an all-stock garden-variety guitar and/or amp, mind you. Plenty of players are happy with what's on the shelf and they sound damn good at what they do.

I just enjoy assembling vintage-spec guitars with a little "twist" under the hood. I'm also a custom-color junkie......I just love the Duco metallic hues from the early '60s Fender color chart. Plus I enjoy "re-arranging the furniture" on a few Fender amps by changing piggybacks to combos, combos to piggybacks, new (old) cosmetics, old (new) cosmetics. My boys never know WTF I'll be bringing to a gig or rehearsal.

:mrgreen:

As Leo himself enjoyed "experimenting", so do I. Only I'm not constrained by Don Randall telling me what's marketable and what's not.

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:20 pm
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arjay
do you have the 80s guitar player mag where they did it cover to cover
about tinkering with your guitar? a wholemag of how-tos.
i have it somewhere still. i hope. i have to tinker with my guitars.
man that mag had everything. i gotta find it.
i agree, some of the old colors really looked cool didnt they?


fireball
its the candy that i like. think of how boring just a amp and guitar tone would be after a while. soon all tones would start sounding the same.
sure your amp dials help get the job done but theres limits still.
so yeah, some added candy sure makes things a little easier to swallow.
everybody likes candy to some degree.

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way cool jr wrote:
arjay
do you have the 80s guitar player mag where they did it cover to cover
about tinkering with your guitar? a wholemag of how-tos.
i have it somewhere still. i hope. i have to tinker with my guitars.
man that mag had everything. i gotta find it.
i agree, some of the old colors really looked cool didnt they?


I had that issue but somewhere between "there" and "here" it disappeared. Premier Guitar did a profile of what I do a few issues back......

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/I ... _Amps.aspx

Unfortunately most of the technical aspects of what I submitted was left on the cutting room floor due to space considerations.

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:14 pm
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yeah there was one deal where you could take a 6way selector and get 6 very different sounds out of a strat S/S/S.
dang now im curious where its at. to late to go digging as the lady of the house will have my azz.
"if your to sick to go to work then your to sick to..............."
you know the deal lol.

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Don't you remember what you mama taught you? (if nobody else will say it I will)
"TOO MUCH CANDY WILL MAKE YOU SICK!"
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yes but candy is like options.
i like having options.

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There’s a world of difference between a “Mastercard Maestro” who runs a monthly tab at the local music merchant in a rush to buy the latest and greatest “widget du jour” and someone who practices his craft four or five hours a day (beyond normal band rehearsals and/or play dates). Money only buys you gear – but practice yields your tone.

+1 :wink:


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man you would have a cow if you had opportunity to see some of the pro guys boards and racks wouldnt you lol?

im not sure if that last comment was a stab at me or what, i'll leave it alone as its sometimes hard to tell with forums. :wink:
some but very few, hide behind their effects while others and most use them to enhance the message they are trying to get across.
actually i dont have a problem with either group. its their money they should do with it as they please.
its easy to tell whos who just by listening.

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I don't think anybody is "stabbing" at anybody, WCJ. All this gear is merely a continuously-mutating set of tools that we select from based on personal preference and the job at hand. Personally, I'm in a couple of cover bands so my task as I see it is to credibly re-create what our audiences perceive to be the sound they've heard on the radio for the last 20, 30, or even 40 years -- Cream-era Clapton, I need the classic "woman" tone. EVH, cascaded gain with a skosh of flanger. McCoys-era Rick Derringer, the traditional clean chunk. Leslie West, massive overdrive and a huge bottom end. It all depends upon the song and its vibe.

Whatever works is what works......all else is merely self-serving pontification.

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i agree arjay. can you imagine listening to a guy play some U2 qnd there not being delay where it usually is? i dont think the same vibe would get across w/o it ya know?

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Variety is the spice of life.

I like it spicey.

do you folks say that south of the border?


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