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I don't for one instance believe that the infection/contamination of the drug has happened anywhere aside from some guys house. On purpose or not. The Afghan farmers are going to be well equipped, after all between oil and smack their funding all terrorism from that area of the world. Their obviously not short of a few quid. It's not a bunch of farmers growing poppy's in open fields.
Surely they would be strategically and financially better off to constantly infect our countries. Selling the poison, making money, destroying our countries from the inside out, ruining our youth. As I said, all they have to do is see that enough of the stuff gets to where they want it to be.

I don't know if it is a malicious poisoning attempt. There's just been news of another outbreak some 30 miles from me. That is far too widespread to be some bloke holed up in a den doing it. Infiltrating that kind of chain at a point above the buying at £10K quantities is very hard to do. Not impossible, but very hard.

The funniest thing is on the news the advice given to heroin users was to get to some clinic to get your heroin tested.
Whats the world come to eh? I mean forget telling em not to take the poison, just check it's safe for em to use.

What has our world come to?
Phreddy had it right on page one. It's called dope for a reason. There's no difference between heroin and marijuana. Their both idiotic substances to put into yourself.
I think the only way to stop it now is to introduce a mandatory life sentence for possession. That would just cause a load of trouble for police forces though. We'd certainly need to arm ours.

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Niki
Yeah you're probably right about some pusher taking revenge on some other pusher, come get your fix from me , his fix will kill you sort of thing, still would'nt put it passed some taliban controlled farm taking revenge for having their crop destroyed though,..............junkies / dealers getting their smack checked out, what a joke eh, get your free needles with every check.....whoever comes up with these ideas needs to have a blood test perfomed on them

In my older age, I find it amazes me that, with all of the knowledge we possess, we get ourselves into these kids of situations... I guess when I was younger, I had to test it all out too!.
So heres my message to the younger folks... The choices you make today can be with you for the rest of your life. Be smart, be safe, and get your "high" through music. Believe me, and like others have commented... you just don't know 100% what you may be getting into when you trust what others are suggesting you smoke, take or do..

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actually there IS a difference between heroin and weed... no matter how "under control" you think you have it, heroin WILL kill you... marijuana isnt nearly as bad as even cigarettes or alcohol...

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Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

A couple of thoughts ...

1) I have had my illicit experiences, too. Echoing some other sentiments here, drugs are a ROAD TO NOWHERE.

2) Maybe I missed it, but did the doctors ever give you their diagnosis? Did you OD on something? Was it the "spice"? Was it a bad PCP trip?

3) Someone mentioned that you were lucky your friends took care of you so that you did not pull a "Hendrix". Roger that.

4) You are lucky you are young. I know that my current constitution (even though I am healthy and been sober for decades) could not endure what I got into as a teenager.

5) Good call on the prayer to God. It is never too late. I applaud you for mentioning that in your very compelling story. Glad you are still here with us.

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Laughing out loud with fear and hope, I have a desperate plan ...

Well the burning of marijuana causes 4 times more tar than nicotine. It's just as addictive as tobbaco.

How many people do you know who cant give up weed. I don't know many longtime tokers who'd even consider it. The addiction is just like nicotine, fear is the biggest barrier to quitting.

If you can do, don't hide behind the lie that you tell yourself that goes along the lines of "I enjoy it and it doesn't hurt me". Compare your psyche now to when you were 10 for proof. Take a look at some decent scientific discovery instead of stoner rumour and see the proven effects of the drug on your mind and lungs.

Also unless your bonging, caking, knifing or piping, your getting all the harmfull effects of tobacco too.

Besides which it's a utterly antisocial, boring, unengaging drug. What do you do high eh? Eat loads and stare at the tv. Yeah that sounds a great time to me.
Oh wait I can do that any night and don't need a load of THC to do it.

All them downers are terrible drugs. Atleast speed keeps you partying.

Being addicted is being addicted, whether it's weed, smack or ciggs. Addiction is addiction.

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Well said Ninja! People believe whatever makes them feel better about what they're doing. We all try and justify our existence and actions and unless you're very true to yourself you will follow the easy path to nothing.

This is probably the most concise thing said in this thread.

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I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet.

Especially nows day with White widow and Diesel and a few others they make Skunk Weed seem like nothing because of the THC content.

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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Thomas Jefferson

A buddy of mine that I used to smoke up with years ago got heavy into coke and became so delusional and paranoid that he thought that police forces and organized crime were out to get him.He became so fixated on this that he hanged himself in his brother's basement.It wasn't until they read his suicide note that they realized how much the cocaine had taken control of his life and rationality.I still smoke marijuana but try to stick to homegrown that way you know what's going into your body.Myself and a lot of people who suffer from chronic pain find marijuana a panacea for pain treatment and sleep aid.Marijuana if used responsibly and sensibly-that's pure unaldulterated marijuana-is far less harmful than alcohol.It's when organized crime and unscrupulous sellers start spraying God knows what on it that it becomes dangerous.There are studies going on in medical facilities worldwide investigating the possibility of treating various cancers and MS with marijuana, THC(its active ingredient)and other compounds found in it.So far promising results have been found in treating various maladies.Publications such as High Times and Weed World are always publishing findings of studies done by many legitimate and respectable medical research facilities and providing links to these facilities so you can see their research for yourself.As with any other drug moderation is the key,some drugs like meth and coke have no"safe"mininum dose but marijuana isn't the evil mind robber that some people make it up to be.It can be a boon to people who suffer from pain.

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i never got a diagnosis, but i'm 100% sure it was the spice. and as for the trip which came out of nowhere, i think it's just the combination of a lot of weed, the fact it was my first time, that i was smoking it out of a bong, and how big of a hit i took.

oh and i just thought about something. it couldn't have been laced with PCP because it was still in the original, storebought package. but i have read that these particular kinds of incense contain many chemicals other than cannabis that can be harmful, and aren't even mentioned on the packaging.

-Jake

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"I don't care how good you are, how fast you are. You ain't good enough no lessin' you got the soul." -Hubert Sumlin

Years ago there was a potent DMT sprayed weed that had similar affects to the ones that you described and enough of that could cause psychosis,maybe DMT is on its way back into the drug trade.

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THIS...
thats pretty much what i was trying to say in my post... just a lot less lazy

edit: that is, minus the coke controlled friend

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Melvins
The Jesus Lizard
Cows
Big Business
R***man
Minutemen
Flight
Minor Threat
Big Black
Shellac
Karp
Scratch Acid
Wipers
Pixies

Many years ago, U of Illinois, Organic Chemistry 251 and 252...

...learned a gob about the formulations of and production methods of and mistakes that could be made and likely contaminants and "additives" in "recreational chemicals." Street drugs.

No FDA or other monitored quality control, no morals on the part of the producers, no list of ingredients, let alone if they were reagent grade. Often the reefer was sprayed with some poisons. Stuff like LSD was so delicate to produce, how basement pharmacists did it was not comforting.

Scared the ever-living ***k out of this student.

No, thank you. A bottle of Foster's Lager or two fingers of Glenfiddich Scots Whusky will do fine, thank you.

When I was younger I smoked weed every day. One day I realized I wasnt enjoying it anymore and so I stopped. I wouldnt even know where to get it anymore. I think quitting other drugs is much harder. I never had any cravings or feelings of addiction.