Even the Europeans are seeing how lame Obama is now

Ceri · **Posted:** Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:05 am

turrican wrote:

People in Europe accept big brother type governments and even they are saying something now...

Oh dear oh dear.

[Sigh] Movin' on...

Cheers - C

stryder1017 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:42 am

airbornestrat wrote:

I am an Army Officer, I do not vote therefore I can serve both parties with equal deference. That said man I can't wait until 2012.
ABS

haha

stryder1017 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:44 am

after reading replies to this thread i have come to the realization that not everyone in the country drank the kool-aid. I now have hope for our future

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belly65 · **Joined:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:38 am **Posts:** 108

stryder1017 wrote:

after reading replies to this thread i have come to the realization that not everyone in the country drank the kool-aid. I now have hope for our future

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belly65 · **Joined:** Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:38 am **Posts:** 108

turrican wrote:

How did we end up with such a bunch of elitist snobs running our country.
No matter how bad things get the Obama's will always say "let em eat cake". People in Europe accept big brother type governments and even they are saying something now.

The last few weeks have been a nightmare for President Obama, in a summer of discontent in the United States which has deeply unsettled the ruling liberal elites, so much so that even the Left has begun to turn against the White House. While the anti-establishment Tea Party movement has gained significant ground and is now a rising and powerful political force to be reckoned with, many of the president’s own supporters as well as independents are rapidly losing faith in Barack Obama, with open warfare breaking out between the White House and the left-wing of the Democratic Party. While conservatism in America grows stronger by the day, the forces of liberalism are growing increasingly weaker and divided.

Against this backdrop, the president’s approval ratings have been sliding dramatically all summer, with the latest Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll of US voters dropping to minus 22 points, the lowest point so far for Barack Obama since taking office. While just 24 per cent of American voters strongly approve of the president’s job performance, almost twice that number, 46 per cent, strongly disapprove. According to Rasmussen, 65 per cent of voters believe the United States is going down the wrong track, including 70 per cent of independents.

The RealClearPolitics average of polls now has President Obama at over 50 per cent disapproval, a remarkably high figure for a president just 18 months into his first term. Strikingly, the latest USA Today/Gallup survey has the President on just 41 per cent approval, with 53 per cent disapproving.

Related link: The Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime

There are an array of reasons behind the stunning decline and political fall of President Obama, chief among them fears over the current state of the US economy, with widespread concern over high levels of unemployment, the unstable housing market, and above all the towering budget deficit. Americans are increasingly rejecting President Obama’s big government solutions to America’s economic woes, which many fear will lead to the United States sharing the same fate as Greece.

Growing disillusionment with the Obama administration’s handling of the economy as well as health care and immigration has gone hand in hand with mounting unhappiness with the President’s aloof and imperial style of leadership, and a growing perception that he is out of touch with ordinary Americans, especially at a time of significant economic pain. Barack Obama’s striking absence of natural leadership ability (and blatant lack of experience) has played a big part in undermining his credibility with the US public, with his lacklustre handling of the Gulf oil spill coming under particularly intense fire.

On the national security and foreign policy front, President Obama has not fared any better. His leadership on the war in Afghanistan has been confused and at times lacking in conviction, and seemingly dictated by domestic political priorities rather than military and strategic goals. His overall foreign policy has been an appalling mess, with his flawed strategy of engagement of hostile regimes spectacularly backfiring. And as for the War on Terror, his administration has not even acknowledged it is fighting one.

Can it get any worse for President Obama? Undoubtedly yes. Here are 10 key reasons why the Obama presidency is in serious trouble, and why its prospects are unlikely to improve between now and the November mid-terms.

1. The Obama presidency is out of touch with the American people

In a previous post I noted how the Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime, extravagant, decaying and out of touch with ordinary Americans. The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Spain at a time of widespread economic hardship was symbolic of a White House that barely gives a second thought to public opinion on many issues, and frequently projects a distinctly elitist image. The “let them eat cake” approach didn’t play well over two centuries ago, and it won’t succeed today.

2. Most Americans don’t have confidence in the president’s leadership

This deficit of trust in Obama’s leadership is central to his decline. According to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll, “nearly six in ten voters say they lack faith in the president to make the right decisions for the country”, and two thirds “say they are disillusioned with or angry about the way the federal government is working.” The poll showed that a staggering 58 per cent of Americans say they do not have confidence in the president’s decision-making, with just 42 per cent saying they do.

3. Obama fails to inspire

In contrast to the soaring rhetoric of his 2004 Convention speech in Boston which succeeded in impressing millions of television viewers at the time, America is no longer inspired by Barack Obama’s flat, monotonous and often dull presidential speeches and statements delivered via teleprompter. From his extraordinarily uninspiring Afghanistan speech at West Point to his flat State of the Union address, President Obama has failed to touch the heart of America. Even Jimmy Carter was more moving.

4. The United States is drowning in debt

The Congressional Budget Office Long-Term Budget Outlook offers a frightening picture of the scale of America’s national debt. Under its alternative fiscal scenario, the CBO projects that US debt could rise to 87 percent of GDP by 2020, 109 percent by 2025, and 185 percent in 2035. While much of Europe, led by Britain and Germany, are aggressively cutting their deficits, the Obama administration is actively growing America’s debt, and has no plan in place to avert a looming Greek-style financial crisis.

5. Obama’s Big Government message is falling flat

The relentless emphasis on bailouts and stimulus spending has done little to spur economic growth or create jobs, but has greatly advanced the power of the federal government in America. This is not an approach that is proving popular with the American public, and even most European governments have long ditched this tax and spend approach to saving their own economies.

6. Obama’s support for socialised health care is a huge political mistake

In an extraordinary act of political Harakiri, President Obama leant his full support to the hugely controversial, unpopular and divisive health care reform bill, with a monstrous price tag of $940 billion, whose repeal is now supported by 55 per cent of likely US voters. As I wrote at the time of its passing, the legislation is “a great leap forward by the United States towards a European-style vision of universal health care, which will only lead to soaring costs, higher taxes, and a surge in red tape for small businesses. This reckless legislation dramatically expands the power of the state over the lives of individuals, and could not be further from the vision of America’s founding fathers.”

7. Obama’s handling of the Gulf oil spill has been weak-kneed and indecisive

While much of the spilled oil in the Gulf has now been thankfully cleared up, the political damage for the White House will be long-lasting. Instead of showing real leadership on the matter by acing decisively and drawing upon offers of international support, the Obama administration settled on a more convenient strategy of relentlessly bashing an Anglo-American company while largely sitting on its hands. Significantly, a poll of Louisiana voters gave George W. Bush higher marks for his handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, with 62 percent disapproving of Obama’s performance on the Gulf oil spill.

8. US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under the Obama administration

It is hard to think of a single foreign policy success for the Obama administration, but there have been plenty of missteps which have weakened American global power as well as the standing of the United States. The surrender to Moscow on Third Site missile defence, the failure to aggressively stand up to Iran’s nuclear programme, the decision to side with ousted Marxists in Honduras, the slap in the face for Great Britain over the Falklands, have all contributed to the image of a US administration completely out of its depth in international affairs. The Obama administration’s high risk strategy of appeasing America’s enemies while kicking traditional US allies has only succeeded in weakening the United States while strengthening her adversaries.

9. President Obama is muddled and confused on national security

From the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to the War on Terror, President Obama’s leadership has often been muddled and confused. On Afghanistan he rightly sent tens of thousands of additional troops to the battlefield. At the same time however he bizarrely announced a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces beginning in July 2011, handing the initiative to the Taliban. On Iraq he has announced an end to combat operations and the withdrawal of all but 50,000 troops despite a recent upsurge in terrorist violence and political instability, and without the Iraqi military and police ready to take over. In addition he has ditched the concept of a War on Terror, replacing it with an Overseas Contingency Operation, hardly the right message to send in the midst of a long-war against Al-Qaeda.

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

Barack Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, and has made apologising for his country into an art form. In a speech to the United Nations last September he stated that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” It is difficult to see how a US president who holds these views and does not even accept America’s greatness in history can actually lead the world’s only superpower with force and conviction.

There is a distinctly Titanic-like feel to the Obama presidency and it’s not hard to see why. The most left-wing president in modern American history has tried to force a highly interventionist, government-driven agenda that runs counter to the principles of free enterprise, individual freedom, and limited government that have made the United States the greatest power in the world, and the freest nation on earth.

This, combined with weak leadership both at home and abroad against the backdrop of tremendous economic uncertainty in an increasingly dangerous world, has contributed to a spectacular political collapse for a president once thought to be invincible. America at its core remains a deeply conservative nation, which cherishes its traditions and founding principles. President Obama is increasingly out of step with the American people, by advancing policies that undermine the United States as a global power, while undercutting America’s deep-seated love for freedom.

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jeebus · **Joined:** Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:35 pm **Posts:** 1296

this is America. we WILL survive. no one person or corrupt administration will bring us down no matter what letter comes after their names. we owe it to those who die to protect our freedom.
i pay my taxes and i obey the laws. i refuse to give up my freedom.

rdguitar589 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:25 pm **Posts:** 63

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Sorry, but I am not sure any one person as president is going to be able to stop the inevitable... I don't like Obama.. But I am not sure anyone else would be able to bring us out of this economy... We may be here for a very very long time...

Youre right about no one person being able to stop this. But Obama is just making it worse by spending billions of dollars when we are already trillions of dollars in debt.

Capo · **Posted:** Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:35 am

CajunBlues · **Posted:** Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:58 pm

Capo wrote:

I wish that is what they were wasting money on... At least smoking weed has a positive effect...

Brad Traweek - Fender · **Posted:** Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:20 am

Although this thread has remained completely civil thus far, I'd place my bet on it turning NOT civil any minute now. Not that I don't trust ya'll but you know what I mean -- this is clearly a politically charged thread and they rarely end well. Shall I lock now or wait ... hmmm.

wtcumm00 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:48 am

no need to wait Brad.. i fear your gonna be right on target

Bill

radio_friendly_unit_shifter · **Posted:** Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:13 am

wtcumm00 wrote:

no need to wait Brad.. i fear your gonna be right on target

Bill

+1, i thought discussing politics wasn't allowed. in fact i think its weird how this thread managed to get as many pages as it did without getting busted, as i posted a politic related topic once and it got busted on the 2nd post :shock:

nikininja · **Posted:** Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:16 am

I wouldn't believe the Telegraph, or anything you read in any snoozepaper.

Much like the Daily Mail it's quite right wing. You can't get a simple unbiased statement out of any of em.
The Guardian is leftwing but can remain objective at times. Especialy so when Gordon Brown was doing his swan song and still failing miserably (does do a great social/arts/music pull out).
The Times less so.

Your reading someone's opinion and taking it to be the opinion of a nation. I have my own views on Obama and their not good. However I hate the thought that every member of my nation is stripped of their opinion of him. That some newspaper editor speaks for all of us.
What kind of freedom is that.

Please don't think like that, you guys are meant to be free, from the land of the free. To think so isn't really in keeping with that mindset is it.
Also don't include us with Europe. Hopefully Cameron will have us away from that soon.

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