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Post subject: Re: this could be it..........your last chance
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:11 am
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Just buy yourself a new amp or a recent used one. Leave the vintage piece to someone who appreciates it for what it is. Recovering it blonde to match your idea of what color cabinet you want is just wrong.


why is that so wrong? they came in blonde too.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:17 am
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63supro/arjay,

what cabinet would you have built?
what brand of speakers as well?

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:04 am
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Its the amp Izzy used to record Appetite for Destruction. He was putting it through a Mesa 4x12.

Go for it, great classic amps!

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Post subject: Re: this could be it..........your last chance
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:50 am
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way cool jr wrote:
stratoBobster wrote:

Just buy yourself a new amp or a recent used one. Leave the vintage piece to someone who appreciates it for what it is. Recovering it blonde to match your idea of what color cabinet you want is just wrong.


why is that so wrong? they came in blonde too.


No. There wasn't a choice of colors. When they came in black, they didn't come in blonde. Your tolex switch would kill the value and collectibility.


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Post subject: Re: this could be it..........your last chance
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:12 am
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Your tolex switch would kill the value and collectibility.


TOTAL "BRAVO SIERRA"!

This was a '67 silverface Bandmaster head......

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A garden-variety piece of which Fender cranked out thousands. They're worth mebbe $450 or $500 on the bay or anywhere you care to shop. IOW, no great shakes -- nothing remarkable.

I overhauled the chassis, built an all-new 2 x 10 combo cab for it, and changed the cosmetics to an early 1961 motif.

I recently declined an unsolicited offer of $1100 for it.

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Post subject: Re: this could be it..........your last chance
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:45 am
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stratoBobster wrote:
Your tolex switch would kill the value and collectibility.


TOTAL "BRAVO SIERRA"!

This was a '67 silverface Bandmaster head......

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A garden-variety piece of which Fender cranked out thousands. They're worth mebbe $450 or $500 on the bay or anywhere you care to shop. IOW, no great shakes -- nothing remarkable.

I overhauled the chassis, built an all-new 2 x 10 combo cab for it, and changed the cosmetics to an early 1961 motif.

I recently declined an unsolicited offer of $1100 for it.

Arjay


That is a beautiful piece.

Do you not see the difference in taking a CBS Silverface and working it over and tearing the original tolex off a blackface Pre-CBC on a whim?

The tolex change would do exactly what I said it would do, BTW. :)


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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:06 am
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A '65 blackface Bassman (the subject of this thread) isn't a "pre-CBS" anything. Not unless you could demonstrably prove that it left Fullerton before the 5th of January, 1965.

But your point is well-taken nonetheless -- I would not change a blackface Bassman (at least not to the point of permanence).

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:14 am
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As for the Marshall sound somebody mentioned....not with a Blackface bassman that I've heard.
The '59 Bassman Tweed was what Jim Marshall copied as the legend goes,but the components in England were different enough for the thing to sound some different.
I wouldn't recover a BF amp but that's a personal choice,it's not like they are that rare.....but I'll agree about carrying a backup amp but not just because it's vintage...a well cared for BF amp is just as reliable as any transistorized sound machine.
Any amp can go belly up when Mr. Murphy is prowling around like he tends to do.
Go for it waycool!


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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:26 am
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Not one person gave the requested speaker recommendation

I like Celestion Vintage 30's myself. They break up nicely, sounds very warm, handle plenty of power and can go from clean to scream well with wonderful 70's rock tone. Not bad clean either but break up sooner than a GT-75 Celestion.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:21 pm
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firstrat wrote:
Not one person gave the requested speaker recommendation

I like Celestion Vintage 30's myself. They break up nicely, sounds very warm, handle plenty of power and can go from clean to scream well with wonderful 70's rock tone. Not bad clean either but break up sooner than a GT-75 Celestion.


tank you for noticing that.
your suggestion taken and still looking for others.

as far as covering it goes and losing value, i dont care.
im not buying it to resale it. besides if somebody other than a collector really wanted it, the new covering wouldnt make a difference to them.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:16 pm
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as far as covering it goes and losing value, i dont care.
im not buying it to resale it. besides if somebody other than a collector really wanted it, the new covering wouldnt make a difference to them.[/quote]

The fact that you don't care is evident.

I can't believe I am the only person on a Fender forum who is trying to steer you away from ruining a fine piece of musical history. :roll:

Have you looked at Egnater? :) How about a nice Tweaker?


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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:46 pm
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Nevin,NEVER NEVER NEVER recover an old head or cabinet unless the original is absolutely totally trashed,to do so would send the value of the amp plummeting faster than a 900 lb paratrooper.If you are heartset on using blonde tolex get a new head built or build one and install the guts in that.I have a 68 Bassman with a 69 2-15 cab and although the tolex isn't pretty and is roadworn I would never dream of recovering it.Even my old Traynor Guitar Mate that survived a nightclub fire with somewhat scorched Tolex has the original covering,it just gives it a funky vibe- relicing by fire.I haven't had any reliability problems with my old Bassman and when you run it above 5 the sound is just delicious.If you can dig up a couple of old JBL K-120s for your cab your Bassman will blow everything else around out of the water tone wise.JBL discontinued the K-120- very bad decision-but issued a replacement that's "somewhat"like it but I don't know the model.I'm sure that other Forum tone chasers will be able to advise you about the right speakers to get.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:22 pm
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I haven't had any reliability problems with my old Bassman and when you run it above 5 the sound is just delicious.If you can dig up a couple of old JBL K-120s for your cab your Bassman will blow everything else around out of the water tone wise.JBL discontinued the K-120- very bad decision-but issued a replacement that's "somewhat"like it but I don't know the model.I'm sure that other Forum tone chasers will be able to advise you about the right speakers to get.


ive heard of these but dont know if ive ever seen them.
hard to find im sure.
ok folks keep the suggestions coming. i know theres some tone hounds on here that probably have done what im asking about.

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:35 pm
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stratoBobster wrote:

The fact that you don't care is evident.

I can't believe I am the only person on a Fender forum who is trying to steer you away from ruining a fine piece of musical history. :roll:

Have you looked at Egnater? :) How about a nice Tweaker?


dude, the guy im buying it off of has 6 of them. they arent rare by any means. i have enough of musical history stored away,
any one of i could sale and buy 15-20 of these bassmans.
recover it, yes i would and wouldnt think twice about it. :wink:

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For speakers use Jensen P12N's in cab.

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