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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:03 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
John Mayer puts me to sleep -- he always has that "Where'd I leave my Clearasil?" look on his face.


The FreeCredit.com "pirate" makes me wanna hurl my Telecaster into my TV whenever the ad runs.

(more to follow as I think of them)

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phreddybee wrote:
maybe its time to end this thread. we all have guitarists we admire, and some we don't admire.

i wasn't even going to comment on this subject until i found out that les paul and chet atkins were over-rated. imho, most of us would probably put them among the best ever. i think the problem comes with the style of music. if you don't care for the style of music someone plays, you may not listen to enough of the catalgue to understand what they are doing.

just look to gibson's top guitar players list. i listen mostly to jazz and classic rock, and not very much metal. i don't know about several guitarists on the list, so i'm not going to listen to just 1 song and make a judgement.


just my 2 cents worth.....


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All this stuff is pretty subjective, but I can't help but think that both Neil Young and Kurt Cobain are a bit overrated as guitar players. Both men have written some great music and are hugely influential to a lot of people. But, purely as guitar players, they're average at best. I only mention it because both names seem to regularly pop up on "greatest guitar player lists" (and usually both pretty high up on those lists), and I just can't see why. I'd think that even Neil and Kurt themselves would admit that their guitar playing is more "functional" than profound.


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cvilleira wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
John Mayer puts me to sleep -- he always has that "Where'd I leave my Clearasil?" look on his face.


The FreeCredit.com "pirate" makes me wanna hurl my Telecaster into my TV whenever the ad runs.

(more to follow as I think of them)

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This is the best!!! :D :D :D

Hey gang no reason for anybody to get upset with all of these opinions...
We all have them, and if they were all the same...?

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Nevin1985 wrote:
Do I have to say it?

SRV

*room goes silent* I can explain why if anyone would like to know. He was a cool guy, he had some hits, but his guitar playing never blew me away. His influence on others is undeniable, but his original compositions are nothing extraordinary.

Hendrix was a pretty sloppy player, but he painted strange and exciting tonal landscapes for our ears. SRV played blues fast and loud.


I disagree in the fact that what made SRV great was his Rythm Chops, to pull off a 3 piece band you must play both rythm and lead often seamlessly.
That i think is why his playing is challenging to emulate. AND to be able to pull it off each and everytime and it sounds fresh... Well keep woodshedding!!


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It Is Dr. Brian May....
As he has recently received his doctorate in Astro-Physics.
So his sound was always about quantum notation :)
He was just featured on NPR's Fresh Air interview with Terry Gross.
Check it out it was quite musically revealing.


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Nevin, you really got me thinking. If anything SRV is over exposed/marketed more than over rated. Don't get me wrong. I love SRV. I was at the show at Alpine Valley. It's hard to believe now, but he was not that popular back in the day. He was starting to find his own style, but mostly he emulated the ORIGINAL GREATS as did/do most of the blues guitar players that everyone idolizes today.

What he did do is bring the blues back from the brink of extinction. He was able to cross over into pop music and get airplay on the rock stations and even videos on MTV (remember the garbage on the radio and MTV in the 80‘s). This allowed a whole new generation of white kids to be exposed to the blues. He honed his chops in Austin at Antone’s. All the original greats played Antone’s after the Chicago blues scene started to fall apart. He had all the tools to carry the torch, and had stopped the heavy drug use. Unfortunately he was taken from us too early. We can only speculate about what he would have done.

I just wish more people would look to emulate the players that influenced SRV. Just like painting is a form of art. Music is art in time. There are many colors, textures and techniques that are combined by an artist to create a painting . No one color or texture is better than the other. SRV is just one color in a huge pallet of artists,. But there is no denying that everything was different after Stevie made his presence known.

Which one of you younger players is going to pick up the torch for your generation?


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I hate the run of the mill 'I have no ability to think for myself' cliche's such as 'overexposed' etc, blah, blah, blah.

Exposure is just someone doing thier job right. Nothing more, nothing less and most of the time it has little to do with the artist in question.

There is people we either like or dislike but after seeing guys such as Chet Atkins and David Gilmour being mentioned I have to admit I would, personally, relate that more as UNDERexposure in relation to those who mention them.

Basing Chet Atkins abliity on one 5h1t TV special hardly sums up the mans career as a whole. I know I would hate to be based on one mediocre performance but some people who have only ever saw ONE thing seem to give themselves the right to judge an entire contribution to the artistic world.

Go and learn Sandman or The Entertainer the same way Atkins played it then get back to me and call him overrated.

What a pity.

And calling Dave Gilmour too 'ethereal' is just beyond stupidity in my opinion as thats what he sets out to do in the first fecking place. Its like saying you dont like Lewis Hamilton cos he drives too fast.

As always these threads are pointless, none of us like the same things. Thats what makes music music.

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Celtic Cyclonus:
Exposure is just someone doing thier job right. Nothing more, nothing less and most of the time it has little to do with the artist in question.


Hmmm. He has had so much exposure, and been so heavily marketed for decades after his death that the manufactured image may have little to do with him as an artist. Someone may consider him overrated because of the image that has been created rather than his work in a given genre.



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hate the run of the mill "I have no ability to think for myself' cliche's such as 'overexposed' etc, blah, blah, blah.

hee hee hee … You make a statement like that and then you go on to defend yourself later by stating that you would personally ‘relate that more as UNDERexposure in relation to those who mention them“.
Stop using my cliché’s and think for yourself. :wink:


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Celtic Cyclonus wrote:
Basing Chet Atkins abliity on one 5h1t TV special hardly sums up the mans career as a whole.


Who said that was my only exposure to Chet Atkins?

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eccentric0 wrote:
heard all of Queens stuff and not really sold on Brian May being a technical master to be honest.
I would class really good players as john 5, jim root, eric johnson, albert lee, les paul, joe satriani..........

I will agree that May is not the technical master as Eric Johnson or Joe Satriani. But is "technical mastery" the end-all be-all? For me, that would be a decided "no" ... I have seen Satriani live standing right at the stage, and I could have fallen asleep. While Satch may be a technical master, he seems to lack a deep passion in his playing ... unlike similar type players Nuno Bettencourt and Steve Vai who have equal chops and -- to me -- far more passion in their playing. Queen's music -- for me -- shows alot of musical depth, with Brian May always playing the perfect solo ... tone, attitude, passion.

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:oops: :oops: I was a little drunk last night. Paying for it today. :oops: :oops:

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That's what the "Delete" button is for :lol: !

Just kidding. You have a great mastery of the English language, if you wrote your previous post while drunk. You were more coherent than many of our brethren on the Forum could ever be, even stone-cold sober!

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If one isn't rating Chet on his far superior knowlege of music/chord structure and his producing skills then what is he being rated on? His looks? :shock: He isn't celebrated enough.

I can understand people not really being into his music due to it being boring. That I get. He shoulda played a Fender though.


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