Oh yeah, dude. No doubt ... Another guy who did not get his due (not to the magnitude of Derek, though) was Pat Thrall who played for Pat Travers.

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wow i did not know this. figures as much. very disappointing honestly.
rebel, i do not doubt your word as you seem to be a straight forward guy, do you know a site or link to back that statement up?
i just think its sad that a dodger becomes a player if ya know what i mean.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

Our drummer was traveling through Fort Worth and saw Ted's show. He said Ted did a great job and that Ted was not lacking in confidence. I have pics he took but I can't find them. He was real close, just off stage to Ted's right.

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www.thissideup.us

thats something ole ted will never lack i dont think.

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63supro
"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/pro ... ng_him.php
Here's one link...just searching,"Ted Nugent draft dodger",will keep you busy for awhile.I'm at work and get blocked from lots of sites so that is one..and I don't go to that one,I just pulled it up.
There's a website ...P.O.W. network... that has a LOOONG list of draft dodgers,liars,phonies and I'm not sure if Ted is on it but I've seen him discussed many times concerning the issue.
I know he probably made mistakes like all of us,but when I see him all wrapped up in the flag,shouting about "We The People",I think about those 58,000 Americans who died in Vietnam,his generation....everytime.

He is a Chicken Hawk.

wow, we dont always agree you and i rebel on some things.
thats to be expected i believe.
for some crazy reason i can feel what your saying here with this.
when i read the dodger post thats the same thing i was thinking too.
hell even elvis was army . he had great intentions but they found out he had talents and cushoned his duty a great deal.
he didnt want to leave so it was writen, but they kinda gave him the boot to go after his talents.
he did leave with honors though.
point is, even elvis took time out of his life to go serve in the way our GOV so choosed to use him.
even hendrix was in the army for a VERY short term lol.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0803051jimi1.html

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

You're right way cool,
You know it's not so much that he evidently dodged the draft,but the remarks that he made about killing everybody if he had been there,even the "hippies in the foxholes'.... well that's an insult to the guys who were there trying to survive and come back home.
For somebody who didn't want to go,but blowing smoke by saying that...that sucks.

its like watching hardcore football folks watch the game.
every time theres a short down or some thing
"man i would have cut up that way, or i would have just passed the ball...."
yeah.... ok. they have no dang clue what they would have done if they were there. its easy to call the game from the side lines isnt it?

yeah folks make mistakes indeed. i do you do......its how you carry it after that makes up for the mistake.
sure you can dodge, later regret and confess your mistake, then be for the team. i understand it. thank the Lord above im not now what i once was ya know. i gotta be careful about what i do or say on some issues.
i gotta keep in mind i too was once like that or whatever, doesnt mean i have to stand for it (it meaning whatever in this case) i just gotta handle things a little differently than as if my mind and past were clean and clear.
follow me? ted needs to too. sure ted can rejoin the home team, but hes gotta be careful. sure maybe all is forgiven buy not totally forgotten.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

You guys don't actually believe everything you read on the internet now do you?
Funny how the source you listed happens to be anti-FoxNews and anti-Republican in general.
It's not like there isn't a long list of these types of sites, you know, the kind of people who actually believe that 9/11 was an inside job. It's a joke, but not a funny one.

Vietnam was a disgrace and for those that aren't aware, the US of A lost that war. How? because the USA never treated it as an ACTUAL WAR. That's the only thing that should be discussed about Vietnam, not the people who said, "screw that I ain't giving my life for that mess." and there were TONS of them besides ol' Uncle Ted. I thought you get prosecuted if you're a draft-dodger, did Nugent ever serve a penalty for this? I wouldn't have gone either unless I knew for sure that proper backup was coming. Which it never did, hence the loss, Vietnam is the biggest disgrace in America's history and I feel so bad about the many Americans who gave their life for NOTHING.

I was waiting to see how long it was before someone brought this bs up. Ted Nugent makes so many good points about what is wrong with this country that this draft-dodging story is about the only thing the left has to counter with, pretty sad really. Sure he goes over the top sometimes but he's Ted Nugent, and being over the top is the reason that we're even discussing him.
How about someone debating him on the real issues he talks about? Most won't because they know that they'll get their asses handed to them. And we all know what the left does when they're losing...they lie like dogs to the american people hoping everyone will just sit back and believe everything they say. And quite frankly I'm sick and tired of hearing their bs and I'm insulted that they think I'm that stupid.

A few weeks ago I was watching Ted on tv and he was spending lots of his own money as well as his time to make life a little better for many severly injured vets from Iraq and Afghanistan. Which is a lot more than I see most extreme left-wing organizations doing...or ABC, CNN,etc.
The real extreme ones are usually carrying "baby killer" signs or picketing a soldiers funeral.
I have eyes and ears and I see what is the truth and what is lies. I consider myself intelligent enough to know the difference between the two, just like MILLIONS of others can. The majority of people in the USA have had enough and big changes are coming real soon. I don't care which party is in power, I just don't want to be lied to by either.

This is coming from someone who has lived in Boston, Massachusetts for my whole life, since 1965. That should tell you something right there about the state of this country at the present.

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bean

we arent questioning the good that ole ted is and has been doing.
hes doing some good things. thats why i mentioned above that people can change and they just need to be careful about what they say when they/he says it. unc ted hasnt been put down IMO, just keepin the story straight so nobody is confused here.
uncle ted and i have a few things in common, 1 being that we both stand up and say what everybody is thinking and are afraid to say.
yes you debate ted ya better know your stuff, made your list and checked it twice. hes good for a debate and WILL tell you like it is and not hold back even when he knows he should.
yes i too believe that we shouldnt have been in nam, but we were.
i do believe if your country calls you to arms its your duity to go.
i know we cant go to deep into politics on this site so i'll drop that last sentence about duty and leave it at that. thats a topic you and i both know we can spend all day and night on and really get it heated up in here.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

In my honest opinion, the draft-dodging issue is brought up on EVERY topic on the internet concerning Ted Nugent. I have watched on YouTube at least one or two Nugent vids daily for the last couple of years. Search Nugent's "musical" videos and the comment sections are inundated by hundreds of people who aren't watching the videos for Nugent's amazing guitar playing but to voice their political opposition to him.

What does this have to do with guitar playing?
Absolutely nothing.
See how it didn't take long before it was mentioned in this topic. A topic that was about seeing a Nugent concert.

Here's my opinion on the draft dodging issue. Back when Nugent made these comments about wearing the "pants",etc.. it was a period in time when nearly all of America knew that Vietnam was wrong and a waste. I think in the usual Nugent style he went over the top, and I don't believe for one second that he did the things he says he did to get out of Vietnam. He was a rocker trying to be as cool as possible towards young rock and roll fans and now it's biting him in the a**.

It absolutely irks me to see a link to a site where the headline is "We watch FoxNews so you won't have to". yeah thanks but I'll watch and make my own decisions or is this just another thing that some on the left think the american people can't handle on their own?

Sorry for the rant but it gets to me, so I'll just leave it at that and move on to all things guitar.

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i understand where your coming from bean. seriously.
i didnt know that he did that ya know. ive always liked ted.
yrs and yrs of ted under my belt and didnt know.
it just took me back and was a little upsetting to hear. i never read
comments on the videos so i missed yet another opportunity to learned the "old news" long time ago lol.
look at jane fonda, folks dont forget and few forgive. you know this im sure.

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"The good thing is in a club situation, most of the patrons are trashed and really can't tell the difference."

No,I don't beileve everything I read on the internet,and the site I pulled up was one that I was not blocked from at work,since we have a Barracuda software thing that blocks many sites.I mentioned that.
And I still believe Ted blows a lot of smoke,he does say some good things about the 2nd Amendment,and as a gunowner I thank him for that.
And yeah,I was around during the 60's and heard all the protests and criticisms about Vietnam and I really know how the USofA treated that war and it's veterans,and don't believe everything you read about that either...and let me tell you something else,I see much of the same thing RIGHT NOW....concerning Iraq and Afgainastan.

Hanoi Jane Fonda should have been hung.
A friend of mine was a POW for 6 years in those hell holes and she rubbed elbows with the enemies of the US in North Vietnam,even posed for the pictures....and yeah,oh now she wants us to all forgive and forget so it doesn't hurt her book and movie sales.
I won't comment on this anymore...it get's me boiling mad...and I come here to talk about Fender.
Sorry for hijacking the thread....really.