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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:31 pm
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Best way to get people to allow you to take away their freedom is to spread fear.

Everyting is a major threat and nneds to be dealt with NOW !!!

It must be very hard to live in peace for those who's "peace and hope" comes from a politician.

The evidence is overwhelming folks, God is in control !


Well said. And you definitely have a point.

If you want to get rid of something a good way to do it would be to make people deathly afraid of it. Most people who strongly support drilling are the people located on the Gulf Coast. That's because like it or not, most people's livelihood depends on oil. So to say that we'll be the first ones to choke on a giant cloud of gas or die an equally horrible death by a giant tsunami... It seems a little too convenient to me. I think it crosses the line from theory to propaganda.
If they can get us to distrust or even hate the oil industry, they'll have a much easier time advancing their political and economical ideology. It's actually quite brilliant. I'm sure that World War II Germany or Cold War Russia would approve.

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Wow, that video was well done.

my jaw literally dropped as i was reading the first post and i started shaking like hell, heart pounding, etc... while im to tired to read any more into it right now, ill take your word for it and go with the "ignorance is bliss" approach on this one... :?

whoops wrong quote in that post lol

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The BP mess is the most talked about topic. The local news is more informative than the national network news.

I hear talks that Britain might let BP file for bankruptcy to avoid paying the rest of the bill. If that happens, the American taxpayers will end up picking up the rest of the bill.

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Wow, I heard somewhere that the drilling was to take the presure off the fault or crack that is about the swallow the caribean. So I guess this confirms it. Oh, well. Wonder how far inland from Naples will get hit. Either way the methane will probably kill me anyway.

and here I was worrying about paying bills and going to work, I think I'm going to order another guitar :)


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i dont think ill even bother with "summer reading" :? ... i hope to God they somehow un-f**k the world...

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I've had some time to think this through and have come to the realization that all the years I've spent trying to be a better person (evolve) are all going to culminate in death by a giant methane blast (f*rt).


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The BP mess is the most talked about topic. The local news is more informative than the national network news.

I hear talks that Britain might let BP file for bankruptcy to avoid paying the rest of the bill. If that happens, the American taxpayers will end up picking up the rest of the bill.



And with this being said...Ooh I better hold off on this rant. Let's see what BP does do instead of speculate on what they might do. I hope that they continue to do what they promised. Nice TV ad campaign, BP. Can you live up to your word?

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I've had some time to think this through and have come to the realization that all the years I've spent trying to be a better person (evolve) are all going to culminate in death by a giant methane blast (f*rt).

i thought they said its uncertain if it will go boom boom?

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There's no telling the repercussions this disaster will cause on the marine enviroment and the earth in general.I think that the government and B.P. have been down playing the scope of this thing.The trickle -down effect of the oil leak could cause a snowballing effect on marine life and could be having an adverse effect on the entire ecosystem for centuries to come. All this attitude of keep drilling the environment be damned has got to stop the cost to the environment and life on earth in general is just not worth the gamble.If the money spent on oil exploration was channeled into alternative energy sources this dependence on petroleum wouldn't be near as great.

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guitslinger wrote:
There's no telling the repercussions this disaster will cause on the marine enviroment and the earth in general.I think that the government and B.P. have been down playing the scope of this thing.The trickle -down effect of the oil leak could cause a snowballing effect on marine life and could be having an adverse effect on the entire ecosystem for centuries to come. All this attitude of keep drilling the environment be damned has got to stop the cost to the environment and life on earth in general is just not worth the gamble.If the money spent on oil exploration was channeled into alternative energy sources this dependence on petroleum wouldn't be near as great.



I do not like the idea of off shore drilling. And I agree that there should be more funding towards alternate energy ventures.

However if your company does do off shore drilling, you better have ALL THE SAFETY FEATURES in place before you go and mess something up. Oops, too late.

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after reading this article i feel MUCH more at ease... besides, if anything does happen, im dying listening to and playing music.

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http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Meth ... 3-979.html

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Maybe the Russians knew what they were talking about when they said Nuke it.

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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
after reading this article i feel MUCH more at ease... besides, if anything does happen, im dying listening to and playing music.

heres the link:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Meth ... 3-979.html


Cool link Floyd. When I looked at a picture of earth taken from space the entire gulf region is a spot, a big spot yes but a spot and even if you go into the earths crust 10 miles it still won't make that much difference, there may be some damage but you won't distract me from the fact that BPs cost cutting is causing the damage.

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after reading this article i feel MUCH more at ease... besides, if anything does happen, im dying listening to and playing music.

heres the link:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/Meth ... 3-979.html


Cool link Floyd. When I looked at a picture of earth taken from space the entire gulf region is a spot, a big spot yes but a spot and even if you go into the earths crust 10 miles it still won't make that much difference, there may be some damage but you won't distract me from the fact that BPs cost cutting is causing the damage.

in most places with a death penalty it only applies to murder or other extremely harmful, heinous, crimes. in my honest opinion, i believe every BP executive involved in deep horizon and the subsequent poor clean up and fix is deserving of a death penalty. they have endangered thousands (millions?) of people, methane bubble or not, and have caused the worst environmental disaster in human history, the effects of which will be felt for decades. they have caused unbelievable economic and environmental damage and they should pay dearly for it.

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Floyd_The_Barber wrote:
in most places with a death penalty it only applies to murder or other extremely harmful, heinous, crimes. in my honest opinion, i believe every BP executive involved in deep horizon and the subsequent poor clean up and fix is deserving of a death penalty. they have endangered thousands (millions?) of people, methane bubble or not, and have caused the worst environmental disaster in human history, the effects of which will be felt for decades. they have caused unbelievable economic and environmental damage and they should pay dearly for it.


Why just the executives? There are hundreds if not thousands of people at fault. The people who made the parts for the rigs, and the people who actually ran the thing. In fact, some of those people got blown up already anyway so I guess they deserved it. And what about us? We're the one's who buy their product after all, why shouldn't we be punished? More taxes? Forced labor to clean the beaches for anyone who's affiliated with the oil business?

And what about the government? I talked to a guy at work the other day who works for an oil company other than BP. He said that the day the of the disaster Norway offered us several large oil scrubbing ships that if used right away would have helped the cleanup effort quite a bit. Our government refused the help. Why? Because 10% of the water that these ships comes back out still oily. Personally I'd go ahead with it and get rid of the other 90% anyway, and so most rational people. But we didn't, and we didn't start burning it off right away either which also would have helped. And now we're in hurricane season. Should we lock up or kill those people in the government who were involved? No, of course not.

It's all right to be upset, but I don't think that killing anyone would help. I don't even think that sending anyone to prison would help at this point. Maybe later if and when we can narrow down the blame to whoever was most directly responsible but right now we should just focus on what we can do to minimize the impact of this disaster.

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...and have caused the worst environmental disaster in human history...


Not quite. It's not even the biggest oil spill in history.

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Kuwait - 1991 - 520 million gallons
Iraqi forces opened the valves of several oil tankers in order to slow the invasion of American troops. The oil slick was four inches thick and covered 4000 square miles of ocean.


http://www.envirowonk.com/content/view/68/1/

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Between 88 million and 174 million gallons have already spilled into the Gulf, according to federal estimates.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

BP's oil well would have to spew 100 million gallons of oil everyday for over a year to just equal the Kuwait spill. And with the relief wells being drilled and a new cap being put on I highly doubt that will happen.

Another thing the guy at work told us was that it's very, very hard to calculate how many barrels a day are in fact leaking. He said it's like taking a syringe, filling it with colored water, putting it on the bottom of a bath tub and trying to guess how much fluid is coming out and how much is still in there. That's why the estimates vary so widely.

And I hope you realize I'm not trying to be mean or anything. A little sarcastic, but I always get that way when I'm upset about something. :P I wish you could get tone of voice in type. Don't take it personally, it's not meant that way. :) Oh, and last time I checked there was still a Kuwait and still a Persian Gulf. So I think our chances of getting wiped out by a giant bubble are looking even slimmer. lol

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