Heh, don't even get me started on r'n'b lol

To me rhythm and blues is Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, Wilson Pickett, Jackie Wilson, Sam Cooke, Aretha, Marvin Gaye, etc. Not the current crop of vocal gymnasts they're trying to pass off as r 'n' b now.

That said, the only time I listen to the radio anymore is if I'm in my car and want to hear a baseball game. Otherwise its all cd's or iPod. The only time I'm really exposed to anything current is if I'm at a bar or restaurant and subjected to someone else's taste or one of my co-workers suggests something they think I'd like.

And to answer the next question, I'll be 40 in October lol I've always said I was born 10-15 years too late

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I can't say that I've heard anything these days that could be called rythym and blues,Otis Redding singing I've Been Lovin' You Too Long or Joe Tex gettin' funky with Hotpants now that's rythym and blues.There's still hope for rock even though some rock bands are being classed as alternative there's still good rock being played.Thankfully here in our province rock is still huge and rock bands are doing quite well.There are some great Canadian rock bands such as Two Hours Traffic,The Novaks,Young and Sexy,The High Dials,Sloan and many others.

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lol dude i still have yet to see where the "blues" was in R&B.
there is none. its a soul music. i think blues was a word they tacked on just to get exposure and they thought it was cool.


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hey nickleback isnt bad. ok i dont like everything they do but they have a cool sound and writing hits. they are a prime example of the hope we have left for good rock music. tehy are todays rocks n roll
take it or leave it ya know.

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it is age related bro.
the young folks like the high energy stuff. really pumps their blood.
i use to be the same way up until i stopped playing all those yrs.
when i finally blew the dust off the metal rigs and started to fire them up again i realized i had changed somewhere in my 15 yrs away.
i just didnt care for it (metal) any more. dont get me wrong, im not downing it, i just choose not to play it any longer.
i want something i can really feel, something folks can taste when i play.
these days, im not trying to burn the house down, im just painting the rooms a different color.

Haha, I totally agree, especially based on what constitutes r 'n' b in today's marketplace

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yeah most of your hiphop guys say that they are R&B.
theres hardly any rhythm and dam sure no blues in them.
i dont recall any of the "R&B" greats talking about the biotch's and rollin
on their 20 deuce's, al the while sippin on their gin and juice,
holdin their pants up with their azz crack hanging out, with no job history,
ya-mean home skillet?

Every GREAT guitarist is blues based, EVERY ONE OF THEM. Blues is about emotion. It was something that was entertainment not profit. The best blues players mostly died just as poor as they lived. They cared about the music and that was all.

Most bands now just a bunch of guys playing distorted, drop tuned and effetcs based power chords. Not many guitarists (using that term lightly) want to learn the craft of playing guitar and have a mastery of their instrument. They just want to be rock stars, that is why the music sucks. The few that try to learn a bit more craft are elevated to god status so quick because they stand out a bit.

Speed doesn't make you great, feeling does. BB King barely plays his guitar compared to metalheads, but he puts more emotion in one note than Metallica has ever put in a song.

Remember, without the blues there would have never been rock & roll or metal (any prefix of it).

lol i knew you were watching nevin. lol

I'll rephrase. every great ROCK/METAL guitaist is blues based. Django Reinhardt was awesome and played jazz. Chet Atkins was country

there that sounds better

Discussions like this are amusing, so 'am joining in to late-night proseytize. Open a beverage or go on to the next post; this could get long-winded unless concise expression wins out, which is unlikely.

In this opinion, "the music (industry) died," somewhere after the very early 70s. Guitar-driven and pop music became incredibly formulaic and money-and-sales-based than even, (gag), the immediate pre-British Invasion. ("Johnny Angel" still makes this writer want to projectile vomit.)

Some of "it" (the current music scene) is by default, good because there are now more people (99% GUYS < WTF???!!!> where are the girls and ladies who comprise more of the population?)...

...playing, and especially playing guitar.

Blues was originally good people feeling bad and expressing their feelings lyrically with cheap acoustic guitars rather than on a shrink's couch. Now it seems to be suburban kids of varied ages up through their 60s who know three chords, a scale and can afford instruments, uber-distortion pedals and gobs of watts.

Rock was originally theme dance music for the lost sub-generation preceding the Baby Boomers to briefly rebel against their parents' society to...before joining it with fervour.

Country & Western sold its soul to the devil of hyper-produced glitter-Stetson pop. End of story, there.

('Am getting to the point, thanks for hanging in)

Magazines are BUSINESSES. They market and balance and produce to the audiences which purchase the magazines and products from their advertisers. Metalheads apparently do that best for the mags, which are fighting for their lives and the jobs of those who produce them, in this insane world in which we live.

Sad to say, but gobs of CURRENT guitarists are either too unaware, shallow, afraid (that's a massive one) not imaginative (a huge one) or all of the above, to explore the incredible range of music which is available from our chosen source, THE GUITAR, the prince and princess of musical instruments.

Recommndation to all those stuck in a metal or "what passes for blues" vein; explore, open up, widen your scopes. If many, many more guitarists played a much, much wider range of music than metal and "what passes for blues" and "what passes for rock," the market for guitars and amps and such would be correspondingly wider.

If ALL (or at least a large %) of us (other than this writer and relatively few others) played some jazz and surf and lounge and show tunes and folk-rock and classical and Latin and ethnic and world and old country-western and folk and roots and solo acoustic and exotic and cafe' and swing and big band and...

...a lot more people would be buying guitars and gear and music oriented to a wider array of music, than primarily metal and "what passes for blues" and "what passes for rock." Which would correspondingly widen the magazines' scope as well.

(See, 'finally got to the point.)

Heck the trickle-down would be great-wonderful-fantastic into other areas; think of the clothing industry selling something other than (you want to talk about ULTRA-CONFORMIST-STUPID-BORING?) blue jeans and tee-shirts.

Okay, rant-lite all done. Take a shot, ponder or just move to the next contributor.

wow i just dont know where to start with that one.

That guy reminds me of this song.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsA5VWb_OfQ

I guess the two do go together.

hows about paw stetson?

um............lost me on this one bro.

They don't call it the music "business" for nothing. It is meant to sell records. Although, it seems (to me) the artists that have the longest careers care more about making music than selling records. The music stays more honest and people buy like wildfire. The artists that don't seem to disappear fast.

The artists recognized as the best are usually very versed in all types of music. Clapton studied country, folk, blues (heavily), other rock, jazz. That is why he is the only 3 time inductee in the Rock N Roll hall of fame. Jimmy Page did things similar but also ventured into moroccan sounds too, to increase Zeppelin's sound. Jeff Beck got heavily into jazz and even into electronica.