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Post subject: In defence of accupuncture
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:41 am
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Yesterday I had my first accupuncture session performed on my hands. When the doctor put the needle in the medial nerves of each hand the pain and tightness disappeared instantly.She said that releif such as that points to the possibility that it could be carpal tunnel syndrome or some kind of neuropathy.After about 45 minutes with the needles in my hands they felt a lot better.It may take up to 6 treatments to see if I'm responding well but my initial feeling is that it just may work.I know that a lot of people think that it's all hocus pocus stuff like snake oil but the Chinese have been using it and refining it for centuries and scientific and medical studies have proven conclusively that it works and is a bona fide medical treatment.Many people have a phobia of needles(I almost faint when I get blood work done)but these needles are hair-thin and when they are inserted the feeling isn't painful but much the same as a mosquito bite. I was always a cynic and skeptical of accupuncture but years ago when I was plagued with back pain I tried it as a last resort and was amazed when it worrked when Demerol didn't stop the pain.Anyone whose suffering from pain should try accupuncture,the little bit of discomfort that you experience is a small price to pay for relief.It's not a panacea and won't work on everyones pain but the majority will get some form of relief.

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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:48 am
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I agree anything that helps alleviate pain has got to be worth a shot. Peeps who ridicule alternative therapies etc either havnt suffered enough pain in life or forget that traditional treatments have been used for thousands of years.

If modern medicine cured all no one would suffer in "rich" countries.

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Acupressure and acupuncture do indeed work, kudos to you for taking a positive step toward wellness guitslinger.

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One time I went to a show in one of the more eccentric bars of Houston and there was a woman preforming acupuncture between sets. I'm not sure how relevant that is to the thread, but I just thought it was funny. :)

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It seems everyone I've read about on the forum lately that tried has found it to be effective. Hope it works out.

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My Dad's a skeptical guy, but he was persuaded to try it for his wrist. It did the trick for him - and it opened both of our eyes a little.

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I remember you mentioning you were going in for a treatment. I'm glad it worked out for you. I've had five treatments, and it's like a miracle. 8)


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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:12 am
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Al 87 wrote:
Peeps who ridicule alternative therapies etc either havnt suffered enough pain in life or forget that traditional treatments have been used for thousands of years.


Let's not forget that acupuncture is not accepted by any medical or scientific community. Let's not also forget there are many alternative therapies which are frauds which essentially take advantage of the mindstate of a person in pain.

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Peeps ... forget that traditional treatments have been used for thousands of years.


Do you really want to be using thousand year old methodology for treating illnesses? I prefer using up-to-date technology. Let's not forget what the life expectancy was a thousand years ago...


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supah wrote:
Al 87 wrote:
Peeps who ridicule alternative therapies etc either havnt suffered enough pain in life or forget that traditional treatments have been used for thousands of years.


Let's not forget that acupuncture is not accepted by any medical or scientific community. Let's not also forget there are many alternative therapies which are frauds which essentially take advantage of the mindstate of a person in pain.

Al 87 wrote:
Peeps ... forget that traditional treatments have been used for thousands of years.


Do you really want to be using thousand year old methodology for treating illnesses? I prefer using up-to-date technology. Let's not forget what the life expectancy was a thousand years ago...


some of the "up to date technology" you talk of is far from safe i can assure you.....

the west turns its nose up at chinease medicine, yet they are the healthiest people on the planet. acpunture is offered on the nhs now in the uk. so it is accepted im afraid.


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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:32 pm
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I was quite skeptical when I had my first accupuncture treatment but it took away the pain that morphine couldn't kill.Just because a form of medical procedure is old it doesn't mean that it's outdated.Modern pharmaceutical labs are developing modern drugs from herbs and plants etc. that have been used as folk medicines for centuries in "backward" civilizations so there is something to be said about a treatment that's proven it's usefullness for millenia.

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I tried accupuncture once. It worked and eleviated the pain I was feeling and got me off muscle relaxers. If my shoulder doesn't stop hurting soon, I am going to forego Traditional Western medical practice and give accupuncture another try.

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ALternative and integrative medical techniques...

...it's about time we accepted the whole world's knowledge as potentially valid rather than being Euro-stupid and smug.


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Look, I didn't say acupuncture doesn't work. I don't have any reason to think it does or does not. All I said was that MANY, if not MOST of alternative medicines are BS, and worse, the seller is taking advantage of the buyer in order to push it.

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ALternative and integrative medical techniques...

...it's about time we accepted the whole world's knowledge as potentially valid rather than being Euro-stupid and smug.


Scientific and medical acceptance has nothing to do with being euro-stupid, or smug, or "big-bad-western-civilization" or anything. Scientific and medical acceptance has everything to do with the methodology of testing it, and the justification for why you're doing what you're doing. And this method of thinking is A WORLD WIDE PHENOMENON. This is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed us to progress from the dark ages that religion and a general state of being unenlightened brought upon us. THIS, is what allowed us to cure diseases, to create vaccines, to truly extend life expectancy, and to move forward as a human race.

Acupuncture is very difficult to test for the validity for. Tests often show results of wildly varying degrees of success. Sometimes it works awesome. Sometimes it doesn't work. Sometimes it worsens your situation.

And whether or not there is medical justification for acupuncture, in terms of whether it works or not, you can't argue with the fact that some of their reasons for doing things are ridiculous. "Chi" is in no way a legitimate medical argument. And pretty much 100% of acupuncture was developed with this understanding of the body that is extremely incongruent with the rest of medicine. Now if it works, it works. That's fine. If sticking needles in your body eases your pain, more power to you. But to me, I think the truly smug thing is not to understand why someone would be hesitant of something like this, when so many other practices with the same issues of medical incongruence lead to poor or no results, and emotional pain and suffering, and essentially robbery.


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