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Post subject: Tone Difference Between Keeley SD-1 mod and Stock SD-1
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:09 pm
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Anyone hear a tonal difference between the Keeley modded SD-1 and the stock Boss SD-1?


Is it worth the $80.00 for the Keeley mod?

Check out this youtube comparison.


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I only have experience with the Blues Driver (BD-1) I didn't find the Keeley mod all that exciting... Now thats just me. I think the best way is to test drive both peddles for yourself. Let us know how you make out.

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I would say it is probably worth it, Keely pedals are very very good. So I would imagine a mod by them to be worth it.

But, If I were you I would look into one of these. I just picked one up from my luthier a few days ago and it really has blown my mind. I borrowed a real vintage TS-808 Ibanez Tube screamer and this thing puts it to shame.

http://www.catalinbread.com/WIIO.html

Do some research on Catalinbread, they are a lesser known pedal company, FOR NOW.

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I've purchased several Keeley pedals over the years. Generally speaking the mods are almost always the same for the OD/Dist pedals. More available gain and a slightly different (warmer) tone. His pedals still sound similar to the originals but slightly better. I guess it's up to you if it's worth the extra money. I bought the TS9 Baked, the DS-1 Ultra, The MT-2 Twilight Zone, the SD-1 Stacked and the Keeley Compressor. I didn't care for the DS-1 Ultra and sold it soon after. The MT-2 Twilight is also something of a slight disappointment as the tone in the very very high gain settings is so different from the stock tone it may as well be another pedal but it can be useful nevertheless if you like high gain tones. I do like the TS9 Baked and the SD-1 Stacked as I do find them to be genuine improvements over the originals. The Keeley Compressor is a decent pedal in that it is quiet while doing it's job... fairly transparent compaired to some others I have tried. The thing you have to remember is that you are not buying a boutique pedal. You're buying a stock pedal with mods.

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I've purchased several Keeley pedals over the years. Generally speaking the mods are almost always the same for the OD/Dist pedals. More available gain and a slightly different (warmer) tone. His pedals still sound similar to the originals but slightly better. I guess it's up to you if it's worth the extra money. I bought the TS9 Baked, the DS-1 Ultra, The MT-2 Twilight Zone, the SD-1 Stacked and the Keeley Compressor. I didn't care for the DS-1 Ultra and sold it soon after. The MT-2 Twilight is also something of a slight disappointment as the tone in the very very high gain settings is so different from the stock tone it may as well be another pedal but it can be useful nevertheless if you like high gain tones. I do like the TS9 Baked and the SD-1 Stacked as I do find them to be genuine improvements over the originals. The Keeley Compressor is a decent pedal in that it is quiet while doing it's job... fairly transparent compaired to some others I have tried. The thing you have to remember is that you are not buying a boutique pedal. You're buying a stock pedal with mods.


What is really the difference between a boutique and modded pedal? IMO, a boutique pedal is just a modded pedal with better components and in a different fancy casing. So does your Keely modded SD-1 sound similar to the video?

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I have tried Keeley mods and mods by a couple of others. I did not find any of the mods worth the money. But that's just my personal opinion.

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Boutiques try to make something completely new (at least in theory) and modders try to improve on an existing design. The modders don't come up with new circuits they change the values in somebody else's circuit.

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I never go by sound clips. They are useless IMO unless there is an extensive side by side comparison. Each rig sounds different so what a pedal sounds like on a sound clip could be completely different once you plug it ino your own rig.

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I don't know about the Keely mods for the SD-1, but if they are anything like the mods they do the the MT-2 Metal Zone, it makes a decent stock pedal into a great pedal. Before modding, the MT-2 I was able to find a setting that I could live with, but then after getting it modded, it became a pedal I cannot live without. Keeley mods, $80...getting sounds I never thought I would be able to achieve without massive a wall of stacks behind me from a stompbox, priceless...

So if the Keeley SD-1 mods take that pedal to the next level like their MT-2 mods take the MT-2 to the next level, its win win...but mods are just like anything, its all in the ears of the beholder...

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I don't know about the Keely mods for the SD-1, but if they are anything like the mods they do the the MT-2 Metal Zone, it makes a decent stock pedal into a great pedal. Before modding, the MT-2 I was able to find a setting that I could live with, but then after getting it modded, it became a pedal I cannot live without. Keeley mods, $80...getting sounds I never thought I would be able to achieve without massive a wall of stacks behind me from a stompbox, priceless...

So if the Keeley SD-1 mods take that pedal to the next level like their MT-2 mods take the MT-2 to the next level, its win win...but mods are just like anything, its all in the ears of the beholder...


From the video, do you think the Keeley SD-1 made a significant tone improvement........is it worth $80.00 to you?

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bluesguitar65 wrote:
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I don't know about the Keely mods for the SD-1, but if they are anything like the mods they do the the MT-2 Metal Zone, it makes a decent stock pedal into a great pedal. Before modding, the MT-2 I was able to find a setting that I could live with, but then after getting it modded, it became a pedal I cannot live without. Keeley mods, $80...getting sounds I never thought I would be able to achieve without massive a wall of stacks behind me from a stompbox, priceless...

So if the Keeley SD-1 mods take that pedal to the next level like their MT-2 mods take the MT-2 to the next level, its win win...but mods are just like anything, its all in the ears of the beholder...


From the video, do you think the Keeley SD-1 made a significant tone improvement........is it worth $80.00 to you?


To me certain Keeley mods are not about improving the tone, so if you don't like the tone of the pedal to begin with, you probably won't like it after its modded. Its about having more options and utilizing whats there better. The tone sounded the same for both pedals, but one pedal had more clarity over the other, and the Keeley mods also improve the bypass setting of the pedal, and I am not sure how easy those mods are to do yourself. So if I like the tone of the SD-1, but needed a little something more out of it, or was wanting it to be closer to true bypass, it would be worth it to me, because I have seen people spend more for less in the quest for tone, like a $40 guitar pick or paying $20 for a 6 inch guitar cord.... :roll:

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I don't know about the Keely mods for the SD-1, but if they are anything like the mods they do the the MT-2 Metal Zone, it makes a decent stock pedal into a great pedal. Before modding, the MT-2 I was able to find a setting that I could live with, but then after getting it modded, it became a pedal I cannot live without. Keeley mods, $80...getting sounds I never thought I would be able to achieve without massive a wall of stacks behind me from a stompbox, priceless...

So if the Keeley SD-1 mods take that pedal to the next level like their MT-2 mods take the MT-2 to the next level, its win win...but mods are just like anything, its all in the ears of the beholder...


From the video, do you think the Keeley SD-1 made a significant tone improvement........is it worth $80.00 to you?


To me certain Keeley mods are not about improving the tone, so if you don't like the tone of the pedal to begin with, you probably won't like it after its modded. Its about having more options and utilizing whats there better. The tone sounded the same for both pedals, but one pedal had more clarity over the other, and the Keeley mods also improve the bypass setting of the pedal, and I am not sure how easy those mods are to do yourself. So if I like the tone of the SD-1, but needed a little something more out of it, or was wanting it to be closer to true bypass, it would be worth it to me, because I have seen people spend more for less in the quest for tone, like a $40 guitar pick or paying $20 for a 6 inch guitar cord.... :roll:
I thought mods were supposed to improve tone and options.

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bluesguitar65 wrote:
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bowlfreshener wrote:
I don't know about the Keely mods for the SD-1, but if they are anything like the mods they do the the MT-2 Metal Zone, it makes a decent stock pedal into a great pedal. Before modding, the MT-2 I was able to find a setting that I could live with, but then after getting it modded, it became a pedal I cannot live without. Keeley mods, $80...getting sounds I never thought I would be able to achieve without massive a wall of stacks behind me from a stompbox, priceless...

So if the Keeley SD-1 mods take that pedal to the next level like their MT-2 mods take the MT-2 to the next level, its win win...but mods are just like anything, its all in the ears of the beholder...


From the video, do you think the Keeley SD-1 made a significant tone improvement........is it worth $80.00 to you?


To me certain Keeley mods are not about improving the tone, so if you don't like the tone of the pedal to begin with, you probably won't like it after its modded. Its about having more options and utilizing whats there better. The tone sounded the same for both pedals, but one pedal had more clarity over the other, and the Keeley mods also improve the bypass setting of the pedal, and I am not sure how easy those mods are to do yourself. So if I like the tone of the SD-1, but needed a little something more out of it, or was wanting it to be closer to true bypass, it would be worth it to me, because I have seen people spend more for less in the quest for tone, like a $40 guitar pick or paying $20 for a 6 inch guitar cord.... :roll:
I thought mods were supposed to improve tone and options.


I did say the mods do improve options...As far as no tone improvement, maybe I used the wrong words, as the mods enhance the tone. But I still believe that if part of you does not like the tone of a stock SD-1, the Keeley mods most likely will not make you fall in love with it all of the sudden.

Besides, not all mods are the same, different mods do different things. Some mods may increase options, some may enhance tone, some do a little of both, some do something entirely different. This set of Keely mods seems more about clarity and an open sounding overdrive and clipping options. Other mods may vary the tone...but someone could mod a pedal to be true bypass, others may mod it to have more gain, others more treble, and there are different mods for different purposes. The Keeley SD-1 mods are not the be all end all, as there are a number of mods for this pedal.

Bottom line is, there is a difference between the 2 pedals in the link you have. And as far as worth $80, they've been in business for years, and while it may seem outrageous to you, no one has a gun to your head saying that you must go with them if you decide to mod an SD-1...If everyone thought that was outrageous, they could not be in business for as long as they have.

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