The Plek machine does the Plek setup. A Plek operator mounts the guitar to the Plek jigs. The Plek machine is computer controlled. Gibson makes the guitars and the Plek System makes sure the frets and nut are correct. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG4BOLlKOb4 It's a pretty fascinating process. It was not devised by Gibson.

The Gibson bashing here is hilarious. Half the statements here from the most vocal Gibby bashers sound like they are being made from people who either never owned a Gibson or maybe never even had the chance to try one or have never played anything but Fender guitars so everything else is no good. Just parroting something they heard or read somewhere. Funny stuff.

Whether or not your opinion is they are too expensive and not worth the money, or you just can't afford one doesn't mean they are no good or the quality is either better or worse than any other guitar or should be for that matter.

There was a post on here where a member laid down some big bucks for a Fender Custom Shop Strat and was unhappy with it because it had some problems. It happens all over. If you don't like Gibson, don't buy one, don't play one but don't bash something you know nothing about. Even though I have fun reading this stuff.

I like some Gibson models, some not so much. My playing style and mood dictates what guitar I play. Like I said I have a lot of weirdies.

Like Fender, Gibson's been around a long time. I don't think that you have that sort of longevity by building consistently poor products.

_________________
Life...... It's sexually transmitted and always fatal

I've heard complaints from one guitarist that the tuner pegs busted twice on his, and as he put it, "you'd think for an expensive guitar you'd have better tuners on it."

I may not have been around the block as far as guitars, but they seem like cars to me--you can get a lemon or not. Just because a car is a Lexus doesn't mean it's the best. Just because you get a Gibson or a Fender or whatever, it doesn't mean you got the best. You just have to go with what you like.

I'm already putting in more cash on my butt cheap guitar Squier than what I paid for it already. However, I am learning alot about guitars and, like cars, how you get screwed over big time.

I do believe in quality, however. If a person is plunking down good money on a guitar, then it should be well made and purr like a puma. Any guitar should be decently well made. If a company boasts about quality, then the quality should be there, no matter what brand it is. I have to admit, it does seem like the older 'stuff' were built better (cars, guitars, furniture, etc). Lot of things seem so cheaply made now. It seems like people just don't put the effort into their products anymore; it's just about slapping a label on it and hoping the masses will be suckers and buy the product.

_________________
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps."

My dad said, "I'm going to miss you."
I said, "Well, now that I broke that sight off your rifle..." (Emo Philips)

I have a 1957 Dano U1 that has the original turners same with all my guitars. Never broke one.
Gibson uses Grover tuners. Grover tuners are used on lots of guitars and are pretty much high quality tuners.

_________________
Life...... It's sexually transmitted and always fatal

I wonder why Fender, who turn out far more guitars in a year than Gibson do, refuse to use a PLEK? Their fretwork is all done by hand, no matter the pricepoint. Mike Eldred made some comment about PLEK machines but I couldn't pin him down to his exact thoughts on it.

There was some speculation on the Strat forum some 18 months ago as to how Fender fret/dress their guitars. A few of us concluded that some machine must be employed to fret so many guitars a day. Consequently I was quite suprised to hear of it all being done by hand.

Given that Fender spent umpteen mucho spondooliks on a air filteration system just so they could spray a bit of paint, it aint like their averse to technological advancement.

_________________
No no and no

Is this the booger?


btw, I think that is a Fender clone.
Over here, it is reported that one of Juszkiewicz's principle rules is:
http://www.nevblog.com/2005_10_01_elliv ... chive.html
"Only allow people in your company who believe in your vision. If they don't believe in the company, they must go."

Jusky, don't hurt yourself.

btw, I think that is a Fender clone.
Over here, it is reported that one of Juszkiewicz's principle rules is:
http://www.nevblog.com/2005_10_01_elliv ... chive.html
"Only allow people in your company who believe in your vision. If they don't believe in the company, they must go."

Jusky, don't hurt yourself.[/quote]

As a small business owner, there is nothing wrong with a principle rule like that. A company should have core rules and a mission statement.
If your employees don't believe in your company, they will be of no asset to you. They should go. A job should be more than a paycheck. Everyone needs to believe in the same vision for the company to survive.

_________________
Life...... It's sexually transmitted and always fatal

As a small business owner, there is nothing wrong with a principle rule like that. A company should have core rules and a mission statement.
If your employees don't believe in your company, they will be of no asset to you. They should go. A job should be more than a paycheck. Everyone needs to believe in the same vision for the company to survive.[/quote]

I too happen to be a small business owner but remember, this is about big business. The people who make companies like Gibson, Fender and friends successful are those who make the wheels turn. IF a company's leader's vision is a bit extreme, you can find yourself walkin' anyway after a series of bad business direction calls on the part of corporate heads who really don't know the factory's machine. Remember HRD? It's fair to call them
a bad judgment call if everyone is having problems with them. If a bunch of fender products went sour, Fender's future would be in question because the smart money concious consumer would not be to thrilled to purchase another product.


What I was saying was a reaction to the line about the employees



treat your employees like crap and it won't be long before they'll walk out on you. I get this sense that maybe this Henry J isn't the kind of CEO
that inspires warm and fuzzy feelings. Apparently, if past execs are even
commenting on this subject, then there may be some truth to what I said afterall.

Company employees especially those in the trenches know their business more than the inexperienced CEO newcomer does.
I don't blame them if they feel nervous about "vision" but what Henry J is
promoting is "My ideas, My way, to hell with you" - thats what that quoted principle I posted sounds like to me.
Now you should know what I meant by "your going the wrong way".

No one really know what the employees are like. Maybe they're not being treated like crap, maybe they are. Can't be as bad as how Cort treats their employees. If the CEO is that bad, the Board will probably get rid of him eventually. Maybe the quality suffered before Juszkiewicz took over and that's why he's there. Not sticking up for "The Man" so to speak. If they walk out, where they gonna go? Usually the CEO will go before the Board lets that happen. Any way you look at it, you shouldn't be doing a lousy job because you don't like the boss. You only put your job and everyone else's in jeopardy.

There are other ways to solve the problem. The employees should organize a walk out if it's all that bad or send a rep up to the board or confront Juszkiewicz's.

_________________
Life...... It's sexually transmitted and always fatal

I have been in search for an LP for a while and in the Toronto area most Gibsons that I tried (Standard/Traditional/Classic/Studio) looked very decent. Did not spot any wood/binding workmanship defects. They almost all had tunning issues and chinking strings at the nut and needed a good setup other than some Custom VOS.

Classic don't like due to the very slim neck.

Studio don't like the sound tone controls work for me only fully open as sooo as you roll off they get either too dark like the Epiphones or too muddy.

Traditional and Standard I like in spite of chambering and what not (I am not too much into the exact vintage vibe) but the price is more that I am willing to spend. I am currently hunting for something used.

First the Plek is an expensive piece of equipment and second it's a time consuming process. Fender pumps out guitars like candy so they probably don't want to bottleneck the process. Wish I knew who's buying all these guitars because I haven't bought a Fender guitar since the 70's. I don't need or want 15 Strats or Tele's.

_________________
Life...... It's sexually transmitted and always fatal