And moronic.

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No need for name calling!!

I didn't call him moronic. I called his post moronic.

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the only gibson i would buy is a les paul classic, which has been discontinued... but those were alright guitars. i did find a 1970 J-45 for $500, but it was beat up so bad i thought it was overpriced...

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First I am glad your friend had the common sense to walk out of GC with his Martin before taking a beating and getting robbed. I have said this to many times to recall but guys if you are taking in a guitar for trade value you are going to take a good loss. Now I do not blame any store because that is the way it works with all of them, it is part of the business. I had seen a store on ebay selling a CS neck through Strat Ultra and really wanted it so I was willing to offer up a new guitar I spent 2K on and the guy even told me he would take it but doubted I was willing to lose $700 on a new guitar and he was right and I understood where he was coming from as he said he had to turn a profit so there was no hard feelings. If it was just a regular guy selling we would of just swapped.

As far as Gibson I truly believe they are in very dangerous territory and the end could be near. If Henry does not sell I believe they are going to fold. I mean it is quite a few years now that there quality control has been the biggest joke in the business. Just about every magazine review has negative comments right off the bat about the same issues. If I was running the company there would of been a major shakeup in that department but nothing has changed. That will still never take away the history of it being arguably the greatest guitar company ever as the votes would be split 50-50 between them and Fender. But Fender is marching on strong and going in the opposite direction making guitars as good if not better than ever while Gibson has sunk to a new low and needs new blood to save the company.

I own an epi lp custom and have been unable to justify getting rid of it for a Paul produced after y2k. Not saying everything made passed then is garbage but after playing 8 or 9 from stores in my area I was not pleased. It actually sucks to sit there and play a 3000 dollar peice of garbage... I don't even like seeing Gibson's badge on it because the heritage of these great guitar companies is really odd, all of us have just grown up with it, been around forever just there and going strong. All in all I agree with straycat, new ownership is long past due, and epi's with new/old quality pick-ups...sick! Only reason I did still want to upgrade is because the necks on these epi customs are ... Well a little slow, I learned after hours on end that I was looking for something else, and that's when I emptied my pockets.

nah, I just don't care for Gibson unless they are vintage, pre 1978

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To tell you the truth, I've never really played a Les Paul that I liked very much. I've played a few good ones, but none that blew me away. I have, however, found some SG's that were very nice, and much cheaper than a Les Paul.

I keep hearing rave reviews about sg's! I might have to have a sit down with one, out of all of Gibson's crazyness I have a hinkering to check out one of those Zuit suits, or suit zoots, or something or other!

1982- 1985 Les Pauls can run from 3500.00 to over 5000.00................. Mike

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Nevin with all due respect, my reason is I just don't care for a Gibson unless it was made 1978 or prior. I have played 80's models and they just don't seem to feel or sound the same as ones from the late 70's and prior. Maybe that isn;t a good enough reason, but it is just my opinion. If you or anyone else likes Gibsons from 1980-current, more power to ya.



George is lowballing the hell out of him. But that is to be expected, since he is going to try to sell it for $4k. GC was also trying to lowball him since they know they will be able to sell an LP a lot faster than a vintage Martin. But the fact that it wasn't mint does make a big difference so $2500 is likely about the best he would get for it if he sold it himself. Personally I just like a Golden Age Martin, especially the O-17 and O-18's.

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You would be pleased as a pig in poop if someone gave you a new les paul standard, traditional, or 57 reissue. And your a liar if you say you wouldn't like either one of these guitars.

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People who make blanket statements about Gibson, really need to try them in person. Gibson has guitars from $499 on up just as Fender does. I agree there is no need for $7,000 LP's, but there's no need for $4,000 or $25,000 Bolt together Fenders either just because they have the words "Custom Shop" or signature stamped on them either. Not that I wouldn't mind having one. Most big brands have a high end series. Look at the Adrian Belew Signature Fly at $9,000. The list goes on and on. People really take brand recognition and snobbery too far as well as the "Sour Grape Syndrome". If you want something and can't afford it, it doesn't make it overpriced or bad. People make things up just to justify their inability to afford something. I just accept the fact that I can't afford or even justify buying a guitar that expensive without designing it myself. I have lots of cheap affordable guitars that sound great to me. I don't care one bit about status symbols. I have some serious oddballs.

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I would be pleased with the money I made from selling it and then turn around and buy a nice vintage Guild Starfire, but I would not keep it. I am not interested in any of the 3 guitars you mentioned nor am I lying by saying I have no interest in them. If you or others like the guitars you mentioned then more power to you, I just don't prefer them or want one myself.

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