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Obama wants more!!!! American Recovery and Reinvestment Act 50 Billion Dollars more. You like how they changed it from a Stimulus bill to a new fancy name.
787 Billion Stimulus bill that was to ensure unemployment would not got over 8% and here we past that and still around 10% now 50 billion said needed to keep it from going back up .03% to over 10%
June 4 job numbers show majority of new jobs were Census jobs that are temporary.
It is said that this 50 billion is needed to help local government keep Teachers and Police, Ect. in jobs and that with out it as many as 300,000 may be laid off. They don't tell you that most of these problems on the local level are caused by the pension plans and there funding causing jurisdiction not to have enough money to fund them causing lay offs. This money is going to go to paying union pension funds. Like Baltimore the union wont give any concessions and the city is 80 million short of money needed for pensions so they raising taxes and laying off in places. Garbage collection and other city services.
Our tax money given to the union for this year what about next year? Another 50 Billion for the union pensioners in the name of saving jobs The one thing we need separation of is Government and Unions. Stop buying votes with our money!!!!

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Obama wants more!!!! American Recovery and Reinvestment Act 50 Billion Dollars more. You like how they changed it from a Stimulus bill to a new fancy name.
787 Billion Stimulus bill that was to ensure unemployment would not got over 8% and here we past that and still around 10% now 50 billion said needed to keep it from going back up .03% to over 10%
June 4 job numbers show majority of new jobs were Census jobs that are temporary.
It is said that this 50 billion is needed to help local government keep Teachers and Police, Ect. in jobs and that with out it as many as 300,000 may be laid off. They don't tell you that most of these problems on the local level are caused by the pension plans and there funding causing jurisdiction not to have enough money to fund them causing lay offs. This money is going to go to paying union pension funds. Like Baltimore the union wont give any concessions and the city is 80 million short of money needed for pensions so they raising taxes and laying off in places. Garbage collection and other city services.
Our tax money given to the union for this year what about next year? Another 50 Billion for the union pensioners in the name of saving jobs The one thing we need separation of is Government and Unions. Stop buying votes with our money!!!!


of course the 728 billion that the bush administration has thrown down a rat hole in an unnecessary war in iraq has nothing to do with the problem...

http://costofwar.com/

and of course the lack of oversight of financial institutions during the bush years has nothing to do with our current economic problems...

it's all obama's fault and the fat cat public employee unions...

yeah...yeah...that's the ticket!!!


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Obama wants more!!!! American Recovery and Reinvestment Act 50 Billion Dollars more. You like how they changed it from a Stimulus bill to a new fancy name.
787 Billion Stimulus bill that was to ensure unemployment would not got over 8% and here we past that and still around 10% now 50 billion said needed to keep it from going back up .03% to over 10%
June 4 job numbers show majority of new jobs were Census jobs that are temporary.
It is said that this 50 billion is needed to help local government keep Teachers and Police, Ect. in jobs and that with out it as many as 300,000 may be laid off. They don't tell you that most of these problems on the local level are caused by the pension plans and there funding causing jurisdiction not to have enough money to fund them causing lay offs. This money is going to go to paying union pension funds. Like Baltimore the union wont give any concessions and the city is 80 million short of money needed for pensions so they raising taxes and laying off in places. Garbage collection and other city services.
Our tax money given to the union for this year what about next year? Another 50 Billion for the union pensioners in the name of saving jobs The one thing we need separation of is Government and Unions. Stop buying votes with our money!!!!


of course the 728 billion that the bush administration has thrown down a rat hole in an unnecessary war in iraq has nothing to do with the problem...

http://costofwar.com/

and of course the lack of oversight of financial institutions during the bush years has nothing to do with our current economic problems...

it's all obama's fault and the fat cat public employee unions...

yeah...yeah...that's the ticket!!!
Face fact with war come jobs!!!!

Overlooking financial institutions that was all changed while Clinton was in office. Sandy Weil, Robert Rubin, Bill Clinton, and and the repeal of Glass Steagall and Clintons Community Reinvestment Act requiring banks and thrifts to offer loans in all areas including moderately low to low income areas. Bring on all the subprime loans and predators.

And current union pensions in Baltimore were set up in 70's and times have change and the automatic increases every year retiring after 20 in and getting full pension at 50 equal to pay for life can not be sustained. Time to make them renegotiate for the survival of the pensions to get something or let the go bankrupt and let the pensioners go with out.

My Dad Union local 50 AFL-CIO local 50 IBEW went belly up in the 60's they negotiated and started local 25 IBEW AFL- CIO lost all pension money that went in from when he joined in 47' to the 60's
It is not the job of the Federal Government to bail out local government because they fail to fund the pensioners because of deals made 30 and 40 years ago. Tax money from a family in Chicago should not be paying the pension of a Policeman in Baltimore. And what about next year Baltimore will fall short of it again , whats that mean?

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Obama wants more!!!! American Recovery and Reinvestment Act 50 Billion Dollars more. You like how they changed it from a Stimulus bill to a new fancy name.
787 Billion Stimulus bill that was to ensure unemployment would not got over 8% and here we past that and still around 10% now 50 billion said needed to keep it from going back up .03% to over 10%
June 4 job numbers show majority of new jobs were Census jobs that are temporary.
It is said that this 50 billion is needed to help local government keep Teachers and Police, Ect. in jobs and that with out it as many as 300,000 may be laid off. They don't tell you that most of these problems on the local level are caused by the pension plans and there funding causing jurisdiction not to have enough money to fund them causing lay offs. This money is going to go to paying union pension funds. Like Baltimore the union wont give any concessions and the city is 80 million short of money needed for pensions so they raising taxes and laying off in places. Garbage collection and other city services.
Our tax money given to the union for this year what about next year? Another 50 Billion for the union pensioners in the name of saving jobs The one thing we need separation of is Government and Unions. Stop buying votes with our money!!!!


of course the 728 billion that the bush administration has thrown down a rat hole in an unnecessary war in iraq has nothing to do with the problem...

http://costofwar.com/

and of course the lack of oversight of financial institutions during the bush years has nothing to do with our current economic problems...

it's all obama's fault and the fat cat public employee unions...

yeah...yeah...that's the ticket!!!
Face fact with war come jobs!!!!


and death, destruction, suffering, and senseless killing.

i guess it's okay if their not bombing your house..right?


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Things just don't sound like they are getting better!!!!
Unemployment falls in 37 states in May

POSTED: 2:12 PM FRI, JUNE 18, 2010
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WASHINGTON — A majority of states saw their unemployment rates drop in May. But the widespread declines were mainly because people gave up looking for work and were no longer counted.

The unemployment rate fell in 37 states — including Maryland, where it dropped from 7.5 percent to 7.2 percent — and the District of Columbia, the Labor Department said Friday. Six states had increases and seven experienced no change.

Forty-one states and the District of Columbia saw a net increase in jobs. But that reflected national data showing a huge gain because of government hiring of temporary census workers.

Nevada now has the highest jobless rate in the country, marking the first time in more than four years that Michigan did not hold that distinction. Nevada’s rate climbed to 14 percent. Michigan’s fell to 13.6 percent.

Nationally, the unemployment rate dipped to 9.7 percent in May from 9.9 percent in April. But the drop was largely because hundreds of thousands of jobless people stopped searching for work.

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cvilleira wrote:
Face fact with war come jobs!!!!


Obviously they didn't.

So you're ok with spending 728 billion on another country but you're against spending 50 billion on your own country? That patriotism for ya.

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Face fact with war come jobs!!!!


Obviously they didn't.

So you're ok with spending 728 billion on another country but you're against spending 50 billion on your own country? That patriotism for ya.
From someone who has done work for a lot of years on Military contracts until 1 1/2 yrs ago I have to say yes. All those years what was that 728 Billion spent on.

Now where did Obama's first stimulus of 787 billion in one year go. ONE YEAR And did it work to keep unemployment from going over 8% as he said NO!!!!! Now he want 50 billion more to keep in from going up again. This is in one year, where is the money coming from.

I have no problem with spending on Military because with it comes support jobs, Construction of Ships, and equipment. I made good money doing military jobs. I been to both Irag and Kuwait in the past and did short run doing tower elsewhere in the Middle east.
To make a remark about patriotism to me, wrong person for that.

And the 50 billion is to pay off unions pension funds that local governments can't afford to keep paying. Like the 80 million Baltimore don't have to pay in this year and don't know where to get it. Are they paying your pension????

Plus remember Obama increased spending in Afghanistan and troop levels this year, not Bush. And we have lost more Soldiers there this year the all the other together. I wonder why so many don't raise issue with that spending and the Troops lost. You don't even hear about it on the news. Could it be because it's not Bush doing it????

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With war comes recession. Thats the simple fact proved by both our economies time and time again. 1st and 2nd world wars, the Falklands, the first gulf conflict. How were you guys doing after WW2 or Vietnam? According to Leo's use of maple, it took 7 years for him to be extravagant enough to design the strat headstock. Just because of the scarcity of maple.

The workforce is slowly depleted in a protracted war. The only companies on full turnout are munitions and arms factories. Tax has to rise, it's all just a stress on Joe public. Judging by trend that will continue for another couple of years after the war is over, when society has had a chance to readjust. Please be aware, war is not over yet.


You guys need to stop arguing sides and wake up to the fact that every politician in this world thinks that middle class voters are nothing but cash cows, there to be bled. They certainly have no intrest in your well being. Every policy implemented is just another rod for your back. Left and right wing are really just different cheeks of the same arse getting ready to unload on you. I'm not talking about that school playground local government stuff, though that's bad enough. It's just a smokescreen for the real con going on at the top of the ladder.

I would ask any of you with the capabilities to research how much Tony Blair has made from his stakes in oil and munition companies since the beginning of the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict. It's a pittance on what Bush has made out of it, his oil dealings extend way back.

Just one of the many reasons I won't support any government ever.

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1945 to around 1970 were years of prosperity. Kenedy even took office and passed one of the Nations biggest tax cuts, A Democrat :shock: Then the 70's and political correctness started to take hold as well as what was the worst president in history jimmy carter what a Joke he was and still is.

In many ways it seems Dem's of yesteryear where like Repub. of today and the Dem's of today are now socialist. The Constitution means very little to those who say it is like a living breathing document. It is not, its what it is you don't change the meaning to suit your self. There are ways to amended it and they are hard for a purpose. Legislating from the bench is a shame. You can see what has brought on the decline of our REPUBLIC form of government ( not Democratic form) Social programs run a muck and just adding more on.

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1945 to around 1970 were years of prosperity. Kenedy even took office and passed one of the Nations biggest tax cuts, A Democrat :shock: Then the 70's and political correctness started to take hold as well as what was the worst president in history jimmy carter what a Joke he was and still is.

In many ways it seems Dem's of yesteryear where like Repub. of today and the Dem's of today are now socialist. The Constitution means very little to those who say it is like a living breathing document. It is not, its what it is you don't change the meaning to suit your self. There are ways to amended it and they are hard for a purpose. Legislating from the bench is a shame. You can see what has brought on the decline of our REPUBLIC form of government ( not Democratic form) Social programs run a muck and just adding more on.


as always your comments are laughable. as far as jimmy carter being the worst president ever...your way off base with that one. below are the results of a survey of historians throughout the united states.

http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSurve ... nking.aspx

as far as your point about the constitution not being a living breathing document...I believe we should consult the exact words of one of the all time greatest legal minds, justice oliver wendell holmes jr. he said while discussing his theory the organic constitution:

"[W] hen we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago".

Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416, 433 (1920).


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captain eyeball wrote:
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1945 to around 1970 were years of prosperity. Kenedy even took office and passed one of the Nations biggest tax cuts, A Democrat :shock: Then the 70's and political correctness started to take hold as well as what was the worst president in history jimmy carter what a Joke he was and still is.

In many ways it seems Dem's of yesteryear where like Repub. of today and the Dem's of today are now socialist. The Constitution means very little to those who say it is like a living breathing document. It is not, its what it is you don't change the meaning to suit your self. There are ways to amended it and they are hard for a purpose. Legislating from the bench is a shame. You can see what has brought on the decline of our REPUBLIC form of government ( not Democratic form) Social programs run a muck and just adding more on.


as always your comments are laughable. as far as jimmy carter being the worst president ever...your way off base with that one. below are the results of a survey of historians throughout the united states.

http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSurve ... nking.aspx

as far as your point about the constitution not being a living breathing document...I believe we should consult the exact words of one of the all time greatest legal minds, justice oliver wendell holmes jr. he said while discussing his theory the organic constitution:

"[W] hen we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago".

Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416, 433 (1920).
The peanut man ranked 25 thats a joke, the shame of Annapolis. And a Jewish hating bigot.
And our successors made it so the Constitution can be amended for a reason, the un foreseen. There have always been Justices who try to legislate on the bench. There he was a reason he was called the Great Decenter, his interpretations of the Constitution where not it's meaning they were political and socially base on what he wished. Not on Law!

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cvilleira wrote:
captain eyeball wrote:
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1945 to around 1970 were years of prosperity. Kenedy even took office and passed one of the Nations biggest tax cuts, A Democrat :shock: Then the 70's and political correctness started to take hold as well as what was the worst president in history jimmy carter what a Joke he was and still is.

In many ways it seems Dem's of yesteryear where like Repub. of today and the Dem's of today are now socialist. The Constitution means very little to those who say it is like a living breathing document. It is not, its what it is you don't change the meaning to suit your self. There are ways to amended it and they are hard for a purpose. Legislating from the bench is a shame. You can see what has brought on the decline of our REPUBLIC form of government ( not Democratic form) Social programs run a muck and just adding more on.


as always your comments are laughable. as far as jimmy carter being the worst president ever...your way off base with that one. below are the results of a survey of historians throughout the united states.

http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSurve ... nking.aspx

as far as your point about the constitution not being a living breathing document...I believe we should consult the exact words of one of the all time greatest legal minds, justice oliver wendell holmes jr. he said while discussing his theory the organic constitution:

"[W] hen we are dealing with words that also are a constituent act, like the Constitution of the United States, we must realize that they have called into life a being the development of which could not have been foreseen completely by the most gifted of its begetters. It was enough for them to realize or to hope that they had created an organism; it has taken a century and has cost their successors much sweat and blood to prove that they created a nation. The case before us must be considered in light of our whole experience and not merely in that of what was said a hundred years ago".

Missouri v. Holland, 252 U.S. 416, 433 (1920).
The peanut man ranked 25 thats a joke, the shame of Annapolis. And a Jewish hating bigot.
And our successors made it so the Constitution can be amended for a reason, the un foreseen. There have always been Justices who try to legislate on the bench. There he was a reason he was called the Great Decenter, his interpretations of the Constitution where not it's meaning they were political and socially base on what he wished. Not on Law!


wrong!!!

you said carter was the worst...25 out of 45 isn't bad...and is certainly no joke. carter is not a jewish hating bigot and you have offered no substantiation for your baseless claim.

and as far as your response about holmes...when you wrote succesors i think you meant to write ancestors or predecessors. and didn't you mean dissenter?

i included a link to information about holmes for you benefit. since you are a patriot i thought you would enjoy learning about another great patriot.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/owholmes.htm

holmes also wrote..."taxes are what we pay for civilized society"


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Perhaps I should have said in My life time jimmy carter was the worst. But I don't agree with the list either, come on Kennedy 7 I don't think so not on any achievements while in office.
Now on carter and his dislike for Jewish people.
Quote Frontpage
Even as Islamic Hitlerites gather in Iran to deny the first Holocaust of the Jews and to plot the second, former president Jimmy Carter tours America with a new book that describes Jews as racists and oppressors, and suggests they are also a conspiratorial mafia that intimidates “critics,” controls America’s media and war policy, and are therefore also the source of Islamic terrorism and the Arabs’ genocidal campaign to eliminate them from the map of the Middle East.


Quote Huffington post
ATLANTA — Former President Jimmy Carter apologized for any words or deeds that may have upset the Jewish community in an open letter meant to improve an often-tense relationship.
He said he was offering an Al Het, a prayer said on Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement. It signifies a plea for forgiveness.
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And you ask why he apologizes? Later is the story it says.

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The letter comes weeks after his grandson, Jason Carter, said he would run for a Georgia state Senate seat being vacated by President Barack Obama's nominee to be U.S. ambassador to Singapore. If David Adelman is confirmed as ambassador in January, Jason Carter will be a candidate in a March special election in the northeast Atlanta district.
Jason Carter, who is running in a district with a vocal Jewish population, said in a statement that his grandfather's letter was unrelated to his campaign and hailed the apology as a "great step towards reconciliation."
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How any could say carter does not dislike the Jewish people is mind boggling. There is a lot written about it.

Plus I guess Captaineye you like it when a Justice writes opinions based on there own social and political feelings and not the meaning of the Constitution as written. Legislation is for the politicians not a sitting Judge. Justice Holmes did that, not as much as William Brennan in his time , we got stuck with 35 years of his stuff as an activist on the bench. The liberals loved him for that reason so I am sure you did. He was also a Army Colonel at one time does not change time on the Bench.

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Thanks CV, x-President Carter is a very scary person and always was.

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